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[Paintmonkey]

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Hi,
I'm nearing the end of my Clubman Estate restoration project. I've noticed that both front wheels stick out at the top. The difference between the top & bottom of the wheel is about 3/4 of an inch. The estate came with discs already fitted when I bought it, I've kept these on but have also changed all the bushes & rubbers on the front of the car. I've spoken to a few people who have heard of wheels doing the opposite, i.e bottom sticking out further than top, due to negative camber, but never the other way around!
The car seems to drive ok, but then again I have only tootled around a field as it is still SORN. Need to get it sorted before I fit the alloys as at the moment it will just wreck the tyres.
Any one got any ideas??
I've included a couple of pics, although they don't really show the problem that well, as well as a pic of the disc assembly in case thats at fault!
Cheers
Rich

[998dave]

Mini's normally have a little positive camber, and camber changes with rideheight.

Sooo, if you're on new springs it's likely to sit quite high.

Ways to move it back are to lower the suspension or fit negative camber /adjustable camber brackets.

Dave

[Paintmonkey]

Mini's normally have a little positive camber, and camber changes with rideheight.

Sooo, if you're on new springs it's likely to sit quite high.

Ways to move it back are to lower the suspension or fit negative camber /adjustable camber brackets.

Dave

Well I have fitted adjustable cones but they aren't adjusted to the extreme, just to give decent clearance on front wheel arches. It also has adjustable tie rods (going from bottom of disc assembly to front of subframe) but I set these to the same length as the originals.
The only thing I haven't done is change the steering track rod ends. Since the car originally had drums could this be the problem as I've been told the disc/driveshaft assembly is slightly longer than the drum/driveshaft assembly?
Cheers
Rich

[pogie]

The camber on the car looks a bit excessive for the ride height (+ive camber increases with ride height).

Do you know what car the disks and hubs came from, because if they are from a Metro it will be the cause?. Early Metro hubs fit Minis but the Metro hubs give more +ive camber when fitted to a Mini. I'm sure I read in an old copy of Mini mag that you need to use -ive camber lower arms to overcome the amount of +ive camber you get when using Metro hubs.

Edited by pogie, 23 September 2008 - 02:51 PM.

[Paintmonkey]

The camber on the car looks a bit excessive for the ride height (+ive camber increases with ride height).

Do you know what car the disks and hubs came from, because if they are from a Metro it will be the cause?. Early Metro hubs fit Minis but the Metro hubs give more +ive camber when fitted to a Mini. I'm sure I read in an old copy of Mini mag that you need to use -ive camber lower arms to overcome the amount of +ive camber you get when using Metro hubs.

The disc/driveshaft assemblies were already on the car when I bought it so to be honest....I don't have a clue!
Is it possible to tell if they are metro or mini from the pic I posted?
Cheers
Rich

[Pauly]

Did you lose the car down after taking the photo? most of the time when the weights been off the wheels, when you lose the car back down off the jacks the wheels will have + camber until you move it foward, then it will settle.

Paul.

[Paintmonkey]

Did you lose the car down after taking the photo? most of the time when the weights been off the wheels, when you lose the car back down off the jacks the wheels will have + camber until you move it foward, then it will settle.

Paul.

The car isn't on jacks in the photo..that's just how its sitting!! The right height looks about the same as your average mini just the wheel angle is wrong. I've driven round a field a couple of times thinking it might settle down but every time I park it the wheels are still the same!!
Rich