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#1 b3ardyuk

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 12:51 PM

http://www.minifilms.co.uk

Just oredered the DVD's from the above company, but I can not fine anything on the net about them.

I have been restoring Honda Monkey Bikes for the last 3 years and want a change. So I am looking at mini's. I have always liked mini's, but never had one. So I have bought loads of mini magazines, and I then saw the bit on Z-cars.

I like the fact that its a mini running on a bike engine. So I get the best of both worlds. But at the end of the day, its all about cost.
Now I want to have a mini to do up, and then sell it. As I get my fun from making my ideas come to life, but I do not know which is the best option.

Anyone help?

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 01:15 PM

Depends what your buget is :erm:

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 01:28 PM

But at the end of the day, its all about cost.

I believe your realistically looking at 5-7k for a Z-cars self-build, however if you have bike knowledge/contacts then you may be knock the cost down a bit!

The group of members who are currently working on Z-car projects will be able to tell you anything you need to know!

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Posted 15 June 2005 - 05:30 PM

5-7k would just be for the kit itself!

Then you would need the car, seats, wheels, arches, dash, etc etc. The list is endless..

I havent dared add up all the receipts for mine but i would be surprised if it is less than 15k and that is doing everything myself. Granted you can do it a lot cheaper than this if you go for the cheapest bits and pieces but i think realistically a budget of 10-12k would be required.

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Posted 20 June 2005 - 02:07 PM

http://www.theminihospital.com
I have spoken to mini hospital in Northampton, and have been told that someone has put a R1 engine in the front of a mini. Anyone know anything more about this?


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#6 Ade

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Posted 20 June 2005 - 02:12 PM

There has never as far as I know been photographic evidence of one! There have been pictures of subframes with an engine in place but bot a fully varified runner...... There are a rumoured few that exist but as for getting a kit to do it good luck! I know of one person (Dave if your reading maybe you could shed some more light on this) in the midst of trying to build/get one working and has been having a bit of trouble to say the least!!

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Posted 20 June 2005 - 02:26 PM

I've seen one in the flesh, at Castle Combe I have a picture on my other computer which I will post later tonight

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Still struggling!

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Posted 20 June 2005 - 02:32 PM

Cool would like to actually see a pic of one!!. Have heard all the hear say but never actually seen one! :grin:

Hows yours coming on Dave? Much progress?

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Posted 20 June 2005 - 03:13 PM

Hello Ade,
Struggling as ever, I think the only way to get the bike engine in, a conventional manner ie not reversed or anything like that (like the piccie I will post later) is to put struts and a different steering arrangement on.

I didn't want to upset the handling/steering of the mini so I'm reluctant to go that way, it doesn't matter which way I turn and twist the motor there just isn't the room to do anything easily

I know struts can work very very well on the front of a mini but I've haven't even got the basic settings, it would have to be a complete guess and hope I could get it to work well with adjustable suspension. Too many unknowns for me, but I need to do something soon

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Posted 20 June 2005 - 03:18 PM

Found the picture here it is

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#11 Ade

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Posted 20 June 2005 - 03:25 PM

How did that one go? Is there a specific reason for not wanting to mount it in the same manner as that one?

Hmm guess work..... Always a bit dodgy... but you never know you might get it spot on!???! :grin:

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Posted 20 June 2005 - 03:48 PM

Ade,

The engine is running the wrong way now so you need a special transfer box to reverse the direction, sure I can get Quaife to develop and make me one, about £12,000 for a one off. The guy who did this one did his own machining to a heavily modified mini diff I just haven't got the facilities

This is meant to be a fairly cheap way off getting good performance, but getting one off Quaife boxes commissioned is out of the question

It went very well, and off course handle well apart from some ridicoulous speeds into one or two corners that nearly caught him out

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Posted 20 June 2005 - 03:55 PM

Ahhh fair enough. Why don't you sell some of your collection of bike engines to fund the transfer box :cheese: :tongue:

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Posted 20 June 2005 - 03:58 PM

Is all that power going through the fron wheels a wise idea?! :erm:




I'll be your crash dummy if you want?!

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Posted 20 June 2005 - 04:06 PM

Are people using other motorbike engines?
I would have thought that a Bandit 1200 or the newer 1400 would have been a good choice of motors to use.

Standard Bandit 1200 engine is 114bhp as standard, and with a stage 3, 162 or more is possible (going by my Dads old streetfighter).

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