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#1 minicooperaniversary

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Posted 17 April 2010 - 08:19 PM

Hi there again... and I know I've posted a lot lately :), but I was wondering if it was possible to fit some sort of climate control to a classic mini. I'm sure that a few years ago I came across a guy on a forum saying that he was producing automatic climate control units for the standard mini aircon, and he was going to flog them on ebay or something once the testing had been completed... but I've just done a Google search and it's returned nothing :). So, moving on from that... I was wondering if it was possible to fit BMW mini climate control to a mini, or some other form of climate control?

PS: I know it's not really essential in the UK :thumbsup:, but there you go :gimme:

Edited by minicooperaniversary, 17 April 2010 - 08:30 PM.


#2 Furio

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Posted 17 April 2010 - 08:53 PM

i think a cheap air con unit would be a good start!

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Posted 17 April 2010 - 08:54 PM

Climate control? It's called a window isn't it? :)

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Posted 17 April 2010 - 08:56 PM

Climate control? It's called a window isn't it? :)


Yeah :) lol!! Good Answer :thumbsup:

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Posted 17 April 2010 - 09:06 PM

Hopefully these guys will one day sort it out. :)

Here

Im also really interested in this.

Otherwise do a search on the forum it has been covered a few times, one of the topics will help you out.

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Posted 17 April 2010 - 09:42 PM

open the window when its warm, turn the heater on when its cold

works wonders and if im honest its a damn good system i thought of

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Posted 17 April 2010 - 09:51 PM

Look at jap car breakers....a.lot of minis from Japan had air con.

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Posted 17 April 2010 - 10:07 PM

Climate control would be a total PITA I reckon, they rely on temperature probes, automatic valves for letting coolant to the matrix etc.

I would have thought that the above would all be controlled by the cars body control module too, or in the MINI's case a CAN-BUS system.

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Posted 17 April 2010 - 11:09 PM

Yes, the MINI's Climate Control is quite complex and controlled by the main Body Control Module (BC1) via a Bus wiring network. The Air Con/Heater unit and all the vents, flaps, etc are controlled by 3 servo actuators and various temperature sensors around the car. It would be a very big challenge if not impossible to also physically fit the unit in a classic Mini.

I bought a complete Climate Control System from a scrap MINI last year to upgrade my own MINI but have not got round to actually fitting it yet as it is quite a major job involving complete removal of the dashboard and much of the interior, plus some re-programming of the BC1 and splicing in an extra wiring harness.

Edited by mab01uk, 17 April 2010 - 11:20 PM.


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Posted 17 April 2010 - 11:11 PM

Hopefully these guys will one day sort it out. :P

Here

Im also really interested in this.

Otherwise do a search on the forum it has been covered a few times, one of the topics will help you out.


Thanks for the link... Definatley one to keep an eye on. :shifty:
I did try doing a search, and I found a few good topics about the standard mini aircon.

Climate control would be a total PITA I reckon, they rely on temperature probes, automatic valves for letting coolant to the matrix etc.

I would have thought that the above would all be controlled by the cars body control module too, or in the MINI's case a CAN-BUS system.


It maybe a PITA (I think I know what you mean by that), but then a lot of people think that of standard mini aircon (those who have it and those who don't), and I suppose that maybe why people buy minis, so they don't get gadgets like that.
And Probably yes in most new cars, but I think you can get ones to run of their own 'chips' aswell.

I've thought about it a bit more though, [ :) ] and maybe the BMW unit might be a bit to big, but the new ford KA comes with (or as an option), so maybe, if you could find a unit, that would work?

Maybe then the KA's is too complex too,
And I need to look at something like this, that fits on afterwards? Linky

Reason for edit: Added last Paragraph

Edited by minicooperaniversary, 17 April 2010 - 11:14 PM.


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Posted 17 April 2010 - 11:14 PM

it'd be very easy to rig up a basic temperature controlled heater, but you'd obviously need aircon too if you wanted to make it colder than outside.

Yes, the MINI's Climate Control is quite complex and controlled by the main Body Control Module (BC1) via a Bus wiring network. The Air Con/Heater unit and all the vents, flaps, etc are controlled by 3 servo actuators and various temperature sensors around the car. It would be a very big challenge if not impossible to also physically fit the unit in a classic Mini.



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Posted 19 April 2010 - 10:06 AM

I have actually driven one with climate control though. The car is a very late Japanese spec cooper 500 sport with John Cooper conversion. However I cant find any picture evidence on the web. Hope this help.

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 11:15 AM

Climate Control or just Air con?

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Posted 19 April 2010 - 12:02 PM

I m pretty sure its climate control as it got the temperature displayed, plus the layout is not the traditional japanese spec air con.
Something like this.....

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Edited by yat_yu, 19 April 2010 - 12:03 PM.


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Posted 19 April 2010 - 12:12 PM

Hmm interesting.




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