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#1 smileytony

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Posted 01 February 2009 - 11:59 AM

Hi all,

After finding out that after my metro lump has warmed up the oil pressure completely disappears it looks like it's time for a rebuild.

I've got a working gearbox, new clutch, decent head, carbs etc etc. Basically all the ancillaries.

I'm going to pull the lump in the next week or two and do my first rebuilt. I'm not worried about my technical ability but just wanted to seek some advice!

1. Has anybody got a list of parts I'm going to need? I'm putting my own list together but want to make sure I don't miss anything.

2. I'm looking at this kit as the base for my rebuild. I just want a decent runner, nothing more!

3. Are there any gotchas or really obvious things I need to know?

Can anybody point me in the direction of a useful rebuild guide?


Thanks in advance!

#2 mk1leg

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Posted 01 February 2009 - 12:06 PM

That kit seems fine and just make sure your px is in good nick or you will lose your deposit.............. >_<

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Posted 01 February 2009 - 12:11 PM

Well it's in and running at the mo but I just have next to no oil pressure...do you think they are likely to px that?

That kit seems fine and just make sure your px is in good nick or you will lose your deposit.............. >_<



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Posted 01 February 2009 - 12:12 PM

Yeah they will part ex it aslong as the block is in good condition as its more than likely that its worn bearings which is causing bad oil pressure which are replaceable items.

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Posted 01 February 2009 - 12:22 PM

Buy the ultimate mini engine builder DVD.

It shows you how to do everything, in detail with about 4 hours of footage. It'll make you alot more confident about it all,

Ebay Link: DVD

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Posted 01 February 2009 - 12:45 PM

Funnily enough I was just looking at that! Have you got it? Is it that good?!

Does anyone have a list of parts I'm going to need?

Thanks for all the help guys...I'm not happy at the mo as it's looking amazing, and I don't really want to strip it out, but hey ho

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Posted 01 February 2009 - 01:23 PM

Also would anyone recommend replacing the rockers at the same time? Along with tappets and pushrods?

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Posted 01 February 2009 - 01:33 PM

only if they need replacing....

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Posted 01 February 2009 - 01:41 PM

No need to replace the rockers really, just recon them with a new rocker shaft and then using a die grinder with a sanding drum on just clean up the end where they sit on top of the valves this gives it a nice clean flat surface.

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Posted 01 February 2009 - 01:42 PM

Yeah i've got that DVD, its really good, definatly worth the money

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Posted 01 February 2009 - 02:57 PM

Thanks everyone, great advice! I've just ordered the DVD so that'll be my evenings sorted for the next week!

Ok so far on my list I've got:

Engine rebuild kit
Head gasket set
Clutch housing gasket
Timing chain cover gasket
Timing plate gasket
Camshaft lockwasher
Clutch lockwasher
Clutch housing oil seal
Gearbox to block gasket
Timing chain oil seal?
Crank half moon oil seal
Rocker shaft. - is this ok?

Is it worth fitting a Centre strap as the kit says it doesn't include it?

What about a centre oil pickup?

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Posted 04 February 2009 - 12:10 PM

Hi all,

Engine rebuild kit
Head gasket set
Clutch housing gasket
Timing chain cover gasket
Timing plate gasket
Camshaft lockwasher
Clutch lockwasher
Clutch housing oil seal
Gearbox to block gasket
Timing chain oil seal?
Crank half moon oil seal
Rocker shaft. - is this ok?

Is it worth fitting a Centre strap as the kit says it doesn't include it?

What about a centre oil pickup?

Thank you!

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Posted 04 February 2009 - 12:40 PM

Whilst there is some sense in going for the kit you could get to the same spec by simply working with what you have. Unless you are desperate for this to be a quick job I would remove your engine, strip and inspect - you may need nothing more than £100 worth of machining and some new bearings and piston rings. Even if you bore the block and have new piston it will only be aonther £300 or so.

However in term of your list:
Head gasket set - use Payen BK450 gasket set
Gasket set such as AJM206MS
Clutch housing gasket - in above set
Timing chain cover gasket - in above set
Timing plate gasket - in above set
Camshaft lockwasher - in above set
Gearbox to block gasket - in above set
Timing chain oil seal? - in above set
Crank half moon oil seal - in above set
Clutch lockwasher - normally with the cam kit
Clutch housing oil seal
Waterpump
Fanbelt
Engine Mountings - use genuine ones!
Plugs, rotor arm, cap, leads etc
Rolling road tune (especially if changing bore or cam)

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Posted 04 February 2009 - 02:19 PM

Hi mate, I think you're right - it was more a lack of experience in the area, but then it's a great way to learn.

All ancillaries are brand new so I don't need a good few bits below, like water pump etc etc.

Just one more question (well there's probably more to be honest :thumbsup: but when you say Clutch lockwasher - normally with the cam kit, what do you mean by the cam kit??


Ta for your help!

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Posted 04 February 2009 - 02:40 PM

Cams can be bought different way - either as a single thing or, more usually as a kit including the cam & followers etc as you should always replace the followers with a new cam. I suppose it depends how MiniSpeed put together their Engine kit whether it would contain the cam lockwasher or not.

If you were to rework your own engine you might not need a new cam & followers, depending on inspection or whether you wanted something a bit 'sportier'. If you wanted to upgrade then the Swiftune SW5-07 usually gets good reviews and as you'll see from their website can be bought in various forms of package or kit, the basic one including cam, followers, oil pump and lock washer: http://www.swiftune....shaft-kits.aspx




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