36 replies to this topic

[Paul Wiginton]

Theyre about 600kg aint they with driver

Paul

[YIANO]

my mini does 0-60 in 4.5 sec and its only a 998
oops forgot to mention its a yamaha r1 bike engine with a nice ported head and has a lowly compression ratio of 12.4:1 !

[jonny d]

show off Lol

[Sprocket]

my mini does 0-60 in 4.5 sec and its only a 998

*man danglies*

Show us the timing slip

[Wil_h]

It ain't that difficult to figure out how they turn good 0-60 times.

It's the TIRES, boys. Get over it.

My mini is lighter, has more power and wider stickier (slick) tYres than a mig. It also has better gear ratios for a fast 0-60 at the expense of top speed. All of this, and my car dosen't get to 60 in 4.5 secs (it's under 5 though according to my timing slip).

This is not to say Migs are rubbish, they are some of the best eveloped minis around, but they don't get to 60 in 4.5 secs.

[mini7boy]

It ain't that difficult to figure out how they turn good 0-60 times.

It's the TIRES, boys. Get over it.

My mini is lighter, has more power and wider stickier (slick) tYres than a mig. It also has better gear ratios for a fast 0-60 at the expense of top speed. All of this, and my car dosen't get to 60 in 4.5 secs (it's under 5 though according to my timing slip).

This is not to say Migs are rubbish, they are some of the best eveloped minis around, but they don't get to 60 in 4.5 secs.

Try to follow a Miglia through a difficult 100 MPH turn sometime and you'll find out just how rubbish your power is. It can't drive for you.

[Wil_h]

It ain't that difficult to figure out how they turn good 0-60 times.

It's the TIRES, boys. Get over it.

My mini is lighter, has more power and wider stickier (slick) tYres than a mig. It also has better gear ratios for a fast 0-60 at the expense of top speed. All of this, and my car dosen't get to 60 in 4.5 secs (it's under 5 though according to my timing slip).

This is not to say Migs are rubbish, they are some of the best eveloped minis around, but they don't get to 60 in 4.5 secs.

Try to follow a Miglia through a difficult 100 MPH turn sometime and you'll find out just how rubbish your power is. It can't drive for you.

What are you saying?

Come and watch my car at a hillclimb some time, it aint shy round the corners.

My car and a mig have been developed to do different things, at 100mph I'd be pretty much flat out. But I'm confident that I could follow a mig through most corners within my speed range. Problem is, after 1 lap of any circuit I'd be out of fuel and my tyres would have overheated.

Equally, at a hillclimb a mig would struggle as it's engine is too peaky and the tyres would never get warm.

[Paul Wiginton]

Wasnt 0-60 the original issue? - accelleration?

Tony Higgins old Mig done a 1/4 mile in 14.6 seconds. OK so Migs have been developed a bit more since then perhaps, but Wils racer does it in 13.5, my road Mini, 13.4 seconds on road tyres. Migs simply arent that quick!

Paul

[Sprocket]

There is a similar discussion on Minifinity whith similar assertations by a certain user

It appears that the Americans can do everything better, as do the Australians, but we the Brits know nothing, yet we, the Brits, designed developed and built the car over the last 50 years with more tuning companies than you care to shake a stick at

[mini7boy]

There is a similar discussion on Minifinity whith similar assertations by a certain user

It appears that the Americans can do everything better, as do the Australians, but we the Brits know nothing, yet we, the Brits, designed developed and built the car over the last 50 years with more tuning companies than you care to shake a stick at

grow up or shut up, Sprocket. Why do you need to carry your immature bitchy fit over to this forum from Minifinity?

I never said anything at all about Americans doing anything better. And why the need to drag Australians into this? I didn't mention them at all.
It sounds like you have some sort of pathetic "not invented here" syndrome.

All I said was that American friends of mine have DYNOED their own Mini racing engines with 12.5:1 compression and then 14-15:1 compression ratios and found that they got more power with the 14-15:1 engines.

And then you denied that this was possible. You also arrogantly asked "does anyone in America know about pumping losses"?

You just need to grow up and learn that adults behave differently than you do.

Edited by mini7boy, 27 March 2009 - 02:57 AM.

[Jammy]

Ok, only one way to settle this. Someone post up 1/4 slips of each type of car, at the same track, within say an hour of each other. I think that would be pretty conclusive.

If not, grow up everyone!

[mini7boy]

In his book, Tuning the A-Series, Vizard said this when discussing the 310 Megadyne cam.

"A compression ratio of 13.5:1 minimum, maybe as much as 14.5:1 and some experimentation will be needed because of fuels"

Page 300 of the 3rd edition.

[YIANO]

not that i give a sh*t sprocket, but if you go over to the motorbike engined section of the forum youll find my nice build diary showing exactly whats under my bonet.
whilst i respect anyone issuing their 0-60 times / comp ratio/displacement etc and the ammount of care and hard work that goes in to building our beloved cars . why then am i talking *man danglies* when i say my track bike r1 powered mini will hit 60 in 4.5 sec. i know it will as it is geared to do it and i built the bloody thing !.
so if you feel the need to question my performance and you ever come up along side me at the lights ,lets see what youve got !
i can say without fear of contradiction sprocket ,ill be gone before you have time to give me the finger!
incidently im looking into supercharging my r1, maybe you still think im talking *man danglies*..

[Paul Wiginton]

Yiano - Ive always thought it sacriledge to have anything but a 5 port in a MK1, but I have looked at your build thread a while back and thats a cool car mate

Paul

[Nightrain]

im looking into supercharging my r1, maybe you still think im talking *man danglies*..

Would have thought supercharging was the wrong choice for the R1 engine, superchargers have low efficiency at high rev's.