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[battleroc]

Can't you use the small green new owners slip to get a plate, as long as you explain it's just changed hands?
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the people in halfords said i needed the v5 in my name along with another form of ID

Sorted it now anyways

[Burnard]

May i point out something, it is related jsut bare with me.

The government are pushing to lower CO2 emitions, and rewarding people who do, with lower taxes, and even paying people for there excess energy that they produce via solar, wind and any other green powers.

now, lets place this to cars.
anyone who drives a car with a low CO2 emition or high MPG rating, only has to pay a small amount of tax, and they are heavily promoting the 'green cars' and trying to get us to buy them (damn it, they are even giving away 2 brand new seat ibeza green cars when you apply for tax or SORN)

now, all cars in this country have to have a front numberplate, but in others they dont.

so mabe 50% of cars are designed to have front number plates, and 50% are designed not to have them. this is where the green issues come in.
desiging a car arround haveing a front numberplate means it is less aero dynamic than designing a car that doesnt have one, this means they need to use more fuel to compensate for the loss in aero dynamics.
and the same applys for cars designed not to have front number plates, exept it is worse, because they have to be mounted somewhere really rather random, this disrupts the air flow even more, again increaseing the amount of fuel used on a journey.
not to mention the small penalty you pay in the wieght of the number plate to carry it arround 100% of the time you are driving the car.

So why i ask, is the government forcing us to drive cars which arnt as green as they could be? err, the only reason i can think of is so that they can make more money from those bloody forward faceing speed camera's on the motorway.

its got nothing to do with the ANPR system, that works for the front or rear number plate. the ANPR camera at petrol stations can be moved to the rear of the forecourt to do there job (i have always wonderd how bikes get there fuel at stations which have this system).

there doesnt apear to be anything other than money, and posibly IDing a vehical from the front by the public, stopping them from getting rid of it, even then it is an easy fix, turn the cameras round!

they dont have any more problems finding stolen bikes and tractors than they do cars.

i honestly cant see any real reason for needing the front number plate that isnt a cheap easy thing to fix if they did change the law. and i think it would also be better for the environment aswell.


awates slating,



Chris

[998dave]

awates slating,

Chris

Awaits

Seriously though, the front numberplate will make so little difference to the front of the car, look at most new cars and it covers the bumper or numberplate. If you study the formula for power and torque to speed you'll find rolling resistance, coefficient of drag, and weight have a much larger effect on fuel economy.

As far as I can remember, the only places not to require front plates are some states in North America?

Dave

[Burnard]

the point is that it makes a difference.
they create drag, and turbulence arround the front of the car because the air doesnt flow arround them as efiantly as the rest of the car.

[Dan]

As I often point out when people start whingeing on about number plates, the reason you must have them and they must comply with the rules is so that your car can be easily identified. Not by speed cameras (which incidentally barely make enough profit to make a difference to the country, the income from speed cameras to the economy is statistically insignificant) but far more importantly by people. If they wanted to have number plates that were more easy for a speed camera to pick up they could have gone over to a bar code system last time they changed the format. If your child, mother, brother, friend or whoever is run down by a hit and run driver you are going to want that car to be so obvious to everyone who might be looking for it that you'll be asking why we don't have number plates on the sides and roof as well. All they require of you is two, fairly small, standardised forms of identification. Cope with it.

[Burnard]

im not against haveing a the vehical registration mark on the front of the car.

i think it should be a sticker. this allows the car to be ID'd easily, but doesnt have any of the draw backs.

(personally mine pisses me off because i spend more time taking it off and putting it back on because i cant get my jack arround it under the front)