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[t@z]

i'm curious what 10x5's look like with disc's on the front still does anyone have a pic they can through up or does no one run them archless?

I usto run 7.5 brakes on a 10x5 wheel archless i never had a problem with an mot or coppers yes it did stick out but no-one moaned at me or mentioned it to me that i should be running arches, ill see if i can find a picture
10x5 wellers on 4 pots stick out this much

thanks for this think i'll need to get 4.5's dam

[gregh55]

to be honest it does look very cool like that lol yeah ill be using 4.5s too gotta find a nice set now

[CharlieBrown]

i'm curious what 10x5's look like with disc's on the front still does anyone have a pic they can through up or does no one run them archless?

I usto run 7.5 brakes on a 10x5 wheel archless i never had a problem with an mot or coppers yes it did stick out but no-one moaned at me or mentioned it to me that i should be running arches, ill see if i can find a picture
10x5 wellers on 4 pots stick out this much

Now I'm not an expert but I think that those wheels stick out too much and as such could potentially invalidate your insurance. I think it may be best if you look into the law regarding this or you could find yourslef in a world of hurt.

Alternatively some clever person may be able to quote the ruling?

[jaydee]

If wheels are sticking out for less than thread, then will be road legal, and the car in that pic isnt, by the way do wellers have more offset than minilites, didnt they?

[ferrit]

Here you go chaps this is the EU directive that UK law is derived from, thoroughly interesting reading:-

Council Directive 78/549/EEC of 12 June 1978 on the approximation of the laws of the Member States relating to the wheel guards of motor vehicles
Article 6

This Directive is addressed to the Member States.

Done at Luxembourg, 12 June 1978.

For the Council

The President

K. OLESEN

ANNEX I

1. GENERAL REQUIREMENTS 1.1. The motor vehicle must be provided with wheel guards (parts of the bodywork, mudguards, etc.).

1.2. The wheel guards must be so designed as to protect other road users, as far as possible, against thrown-up stones, mud, ice, snow and water and to reduce for those users the dangers due to contact with the moving wheels.

2. SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS 2.1. The wheel guards must meet the following requirements when the vehicle is in running order (see section 2.6 of Annex I to Directive 70/156/EEC) and the wheels are in the dead ahead position: 2.1.1. In the part formed by radial planes at an angle of 30º to the front and 50º to the rear of the centre of the wheels (see figure 1), the overall width (q) of the wheel guards must be at least sufficient to cover the total tyre width (b) taking into account the extremes of tyre/wheel combination as specified by the manufacturer and as indicated in section 5.2 of the certificate set out in Annex II. In the case of twin wheels, the total width over the two tyres (t) shall be taken into account. 2.1.1.1. For the purposes of determining the widths referred to in 2.1.1, the labelling (marking) and decorations, protective bands or ribs on tyre walls are not taken into account.
2.1.2. The rear of the wheel guards must not terminate above a horizontal plane 150 mm above the axis of rotation of the wheels (as measured at the wheel centres) and furthermore the intersection of the edge of the wheel guard with this plane (point A, figure 1) must lie outside the median longitudinal plane of the tyre, or in the case of twin wheels the median longitudinal plane of the outermost tyre.

2.1.3. The contour and location of the wheel guards shall be such that they are as close to the tyre as possible ; and in particular within the part formed by the radial planes referred to in 2.1.1, they shall satisfy the following requirements: 2.1.3.1. the projection - situated in the vertical plane of the tyre axis - of the depth (p) of the outer edge of the wheel guards, measured in the vertical longitudinal plane passing through the centre of the tyre, must be at least 30 mm. This depth (p) may be reduced progressively to zero at the radial planes specified in 2.1.1;

2.1.3.2. the distance © between the lower edges of the wheel guards and the axis passing through the centre of the wheels must not exceed 2r, "r" being the static radius of the tyre.

2.1.4. In the case of vehicles having adjustable suspension height, the abovementioned requirements must be met when the vehicle is in the normal running position specified by the vehicle manufacturer.

2.2. The wheel guards may consist of several components, provided no gaps exist between or within the individual parts when assembled.

2.3. The wheel guards must be firmly attached. However, they may be detachable either as a unit or in parts.

Effectively and contrary to popular belief all the tyre, including the sidewall but not any raised lettering or protective ribbing on the side wall must be covered

[munnracing]

i'm curious what 10x5's look like with disc's on the front still does anyone have a pic they can through up or does no one run them archless?

I usto run 7.5 brakes on a 10x5 wheel archless i never had a problem with an mot or coppers yes it did stick out but no-one moaned at me or mentioned it to me that i should be running arches, ill see if i can find a picture
10x5 wellers on 4 pots stick out this much

Now I'm not an expert but I think that those wheels stick out too much and as such could potentially invalidate your insurance. I think it may be best if you look into the law regarding this or you could find yourslef in a world of hurt.

Alternatively some clever person may be able to quote the ruling?

I dont run the car like that anymore its off the road now having alot of work done to it and i have got a bigger set of 10's so going to stick arches on

Like i said i have never had any problems with the tyre sticking out this much and that im sorry that i may have invalidated my insurance

[Kerrin]

These puppies fit perfectly with no protrusion.



Minilife 4.5x10s at Minispares..

Have you got them on your car? if so got any photo's?

Been after pics of these on a car for a while to see if they will suit my car.

[ferrit]

These puppies fit perfectly with no protrusion.



Minilife 4.5x10s at Minispares...

Have you got them on your car? if so got any photo's?

Been after pics of these on a car for a while to see if they will suit my car.

I have them just not fitted propely yet. I have trial fitted but no pics i am afraid. They look a quality wheel though and as stated on the minispares site these are the only ones that will fit under the arches with disks. So if you want to go archless and be sure you wont run foul if Mr Plod these are the ones for you.

[aston19uk]

i'm curious what 10x5's look like with disc's on the front still does anyone have a pic they can through up or does no one run them archless?

I usto run 7.5 brakes on a 10x5 wheel archless i never had a problem with an mot or coppers yes it did stick out but no-one moaned at me or mentioned it to me that i should be running arches, ill see if i can find a picture
10x5 wellers on 4 pots stick out this much

thanks for this think i'll need to get 4.5's dam

you may have your car prohitbited by a traffic officer as the arches have to cover the wheels to prevent people being dragged over or under them. Your quite lucky not to have been stopped and told. But what police officer looks at your arches? only traffic ones to be honest. Your get reported / points at the maxium.Fine most likely. And you wont e able to drive your car until you make it road safe. Therefore it will go to the pound where it will cost you anther 120 at least to be released.
Just be carefull not to get noticed.

Edited by aston19uk, 03 June 2009 - 09:33 PM.

[jaydee]

i'm curious what 10x5's look like with disc's on the front still does anyone have a pic they can through up or does no one run them archless?

These are 5jx10" GB's ran archeless, they've less offset than weller, once u fit the chrome arch surround they'll be fine:
Car is an inno cooper 1300 export with cooper s discs, tyres are dunlop 145s (as u can see they are stretched)

Edited by jaydee, 07 June 2009 - 10:22 AM.

[PaulF]

I have them just not fitted propely yet. I have trial fitted but no pics i am afraid. They look a quality wheel though and as stated on the minispares site these are the only ones that will fit under the arches with disks. So if you want to go archless and be sure you wont run foul if Mr Plod these are the ones for you.

i got these on my car and with the 7.5'' disks i found that the standard plastic arches only just cover them, the backs the same to but its got spacer drums on there. but when i got the car there were no arches fitted and they stuck out over an inch.