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[mini-man-dan]

As title really! Thinking about going for the silver savage push button switches in my 79 pickup instead of the rocker switches. Got a brand new loom for it, how much modification is involved in this conversion? The switches can be found on ebay. Cheers, Dan

[Darkscamp]

i'm interested in this one as i'm thinking about fitting them to the scamp and Minx to Vadar.

they all state they are latching switches on ebay, even the brake test switch. is this right or is 'latching switch' just a term used.

Edited by Darkscamp, 03 November 2009 - 12:43 AM.

[Dan]

Try a PM to Syhol, he has fitted loads of these to all his cars I believe.

[Hekmat]

I am fitting a set of these to my car. You can do them as a straight swap with the output split in to 2, one for the LED and one for the device.

If you want to me more fancy (like I am) you can wire it up so when the lights are on the LED eluminates with low/dim light and when you flick the switch it glows fully. To do this you need some 4K resisters and diods. Basically you draw a feed from the instrument light pass it through the diod and LED and then you insert a diod in the feed for LED. The diod will ensure that power does not passthrough to the other side. Here is a pic done by someone else on the WSCC site.

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You can get more info here.

[cobblers]

I am fitting a set of these to my car. You can do them as a straight swap with the output split in to 2, one for the LED and one for the device.

If you want to me more fancy (like I am) you can wire it up so when the lights are on the LED eluminates with low/dim light and when you flick the switch it glows fully. To do this you need some 4K resisters and diods. Basically you draw a feed from the instrument light pass it through the diod and LED and then you insert a diod in the feed for LED. The diod will ensure that power does not passthrough to the other side. Here is a pic done by someone else on the WSCC site.


You can get more info here.

That's a nice idea. Stick a capacitor in parallel with the LED and it'll fade on and off too

[kcchan]

As far as I remember, the hazard switch needs abit of fancy wiring. The rest should be fairly simple though.

[mini-man-dan]

Hmm ok. I think that's a bit beyond me, really not keen on electrics! How much do you reckon a auto-electrician would charge to do it? I haven't got a clue!
Cheers
Dan

Edited by mini-man-dan, 03 November 2009 - 03:36 PM.

[Hekmat]

Hmm ok. I think that's a bit beyond me, really not keen on electrics! How much do you reckon a auto-electrician would charge to do it? I haven't got a clue!
Cheers
Dan

I am not that good in electricals either, I just followed the guide I linked to and basically you need to solder the components together. It is not that dificult realy, it took me around 2 hours to figure out which way around each component goes, then started soldering them together, overall it took me 6 hours to prep 8 switchs (inc testing each).

Here are some pics of the setup:

Side lights on so the switch is illuminated dimly:

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When the switch turned on:
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Complete setup:

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If you need it I can do a small guide with large pics to show you how to do it.

[mini-man-dan]

That would be great if you could. Doesn't help that I'm colourblind aswell Hence why I'm so unsure about wiring things!

Edited by mini-man-dan, 04 November 2009 - 09:53 AM.

[Hekmat]

Okay, should be able to get something together by tomorrow. I am partially colour blind as well and I rely on the family and sticker tapes to help with the colours.

[Darkscamp]

it would be great if you could do a guide to wiring up savage switches, inc the dreaded hazard light switch


hopefully when its done, the powers that be will pin it for future users

[mini-man-dan]

Okay, should be able to get something together by tomorrow. I am partially colour blind as well and I rely on the family and sticker tapes to help with the colours.

Great fun isn't it! Hate it
And thanks very much. Will make all the difference to the interior I think
If the hazard is all too confusing, you could run that on a normal rocker switch and hide it to the right of the steering wheel on one of them little panels as it isn't so noticeable all in black. Then buy one of the replacement panels for the centre from Minteriors (I think that's who sell them) which are for the centre for Savage switches, with the right hole size in.
Dan

Edited by mini-man-dan, 05 November 2009 - 04:38 PM.

[adam_93rio]

ive always wanted to do this and looked into it,
how it is wired there is exactly what i was going to do, and i even had the cap to get it to dim
im an electrical engineer so do a lot of stuff like this, modding circuit boards

id help you out with the colour blindness but i have a sick sense of humour
'yep yep thats earth, muhahaha)

[adam_93rio]

surley the hazard switch isnt that complex?, im gonna get hold of one and strip it. surley its just about finding which pins it switches then wiring the new switch just to switch the same

if that makes sense

[Dan]

It's not that complex, it's just entirely different from any of the switches in this range (because they are cheap, generic switchgear with symbols stuck on the front rather than switchgear specifically designed for a car). What's complex for a novice is adapting the circuit to a simple switch. Suitable wiring diagrams have been posted on here many times for the two or three different ways it can be done. The hazard switch makes one simple two wire circuit when it's off and closes four different terminals when it's on. If you're an electrical engineer you shouldn't have to strip down a switch to find out how it works! Look at the wiring diagram.