I have a 1275 mg metro engine in my mini which i think is a wicked little motor, however im looking at buying a turbo from a friend whiich i think is a t3.
what sort of other mods will i need to make so that i can run it reliabley? ( wont be runing it on to hi psi)
Any advice would be helpfull
MG 1275
Started by
silvermini
, Oct 11 2005 12:08 PM
12 replies to this topic
#1
Posted 11 October 2005 - 12:08 PM
#2
Posted 11 October 2005 - 12:36 PM
basically you will need a turbo engine, as the pistons and the compression are different to the metro engine you have, you'll also need the carb off a turbo and the head would not be a bad idea...
#3
Posted 11 October 2005 - 01:48 PM
what would happen if i put the turbo on and ran it on a low psi?
#4
Posted 11 October 2005 - 02:07 PM
looke at the book on the MG Metro Turbo, as standard it is running a 9.4:1 compression ratio and 4-7 psi boost ( which is believe is very low for a turbo )
Most MG metro engines run 10.5:1 CR, which I suspect means you will have to turn the boost down even more...
I'm not a turbo man, so your about at the limit of my knowledge, but after splitting both turbo and MG engines, the pistons and heads are very different.
Most MG metro engines run 10.5:1 CR, which I suspect means you will have to turn the boost down even more...
I'm not a turbo man, so your about at the limit of my knowledge, but after splitting both turbo and MG engines, the pistons and heads are very different.
#5
Posted 11 October 2005 - 10:48 PM
There's no real reason why you couldn't Turbo your existing engine, though as stated above the compression will be to high to run any real boost. So there's a few things to consider.....
Firstly the NA pistons differ from the Turbo items & running a Turbo on these is somewhat of a "grey area". It'll basically be a "try it and see" situation, so i would limit boost to say 7-8psi and "hopefully" it should be ok.
To lower the compression to something suitable I would get the chambers in the head worked to drop the compression to something like 8.5-1.
You'll also need to run a Turbo dizzy, or limit the advance of your existing one, and you'll need the Turbo carb, fuel pump, reg etc etc
Providing the ignition and fuelling are spot on i would think it'll last ok if everything's in good order. It will be interesting to see how a normally aspirated motor holds up to Turbocharging, it just needs somebody to take the risk and see how far it'll go.... any takers ? lol
Phil.
Firstly the NA pistons differ from the Turbo items & running a Turbo on these is somewhat of a "grey area". It'll basically be a "try it and see" situation, so i would limit boost to say 7-8psi and "hopefully" it should be ok.
To lower the compression to something suitable I would get the chambers in the head worked to drop the compression to something like 8.5-1.
You'll also need to run a Turbo dizzy, or limit the advance of your existing one, and you'll need the Turbo carb, fuel pump, reg etc etc
Providing the ignition and fuelling are spot on i would think it'll last ok if everything's in good order. It will be interesting to see how a normally aspirated motor holds up to Turbocharging, it just needs somebody to take the risk and see how far it'll go.... any takers ? lol
Phil.
#6
Posted 11 October 2005 - 10:50 PM
you'd probably get something like this if you ran a turbo on an MG lump, in a very short space of time
best bet is to get an engine kit from a decent builder like morspeed, that way you wont melt it after 6 weeks and be gutted like me
best bet is to get an engine kit from a decent builder like morspeed, that way you wont melt it after 6 weeks and be gutted like me
#7
Posted 11 October 2005 - 10:51 PM
phils post wasn't there a minute ago
#8
Posted 11 October 2005 - 10:55 PM
Was that on 10.5-1 compression then Bud ?
Phil.
Phil.
#9
Posted 11 October 2005 - 10:58 PM
it was on 9.4:1 but with a 10thou head skim due to warpage...and around 10psi.
#10
Posted 11 October 2005 - 11:03 PM
Probably not the fault of the pistons then. 10psi may be a tad high on that compression . lol.
It would be nice to know what they'll stand with a lower compression.
What about ignition and fuelling, was this spot on ?
Phil.
It would be nice to know what they'll stand with a lower compression.
What about ignition and fuelling, was this spot on ?
Phil.
#11
Posted 12 October 2005 - 07:07 PM
not in the slightest....it was the usual rip it out of the metro, drop into the mini and drive. was a combination of no RR setup, lead right foot and the actuator pipe may have fell off aswell * it lasted a whole 6 weeks and one track day
#12
Posted 12 October 2005 - 09:13 PM
A thicker head gasket will reduce the compression ratio, but you will still have to limit the boost on standard pistons and rings.
Good luck
Karl
Good luck
Karl
#13
Posted 18 October 2005 - 04:59 PM
i got a mate who blew up his turbo 1275 a couple of days before our rolling road day with mini world, so he got a standard 1000cc bolted on an mg head with a 2nd hand head gasket and slapped the turbo on.. modded turbo that is, and a huge intercooler... got silly power.. before the clutch started slipping.
Still going now after 3 months.. so much fun.
Still going now after 3 months.. so much fun.
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