Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

How Much Hp Out Of A 998?


  • Please log in to reply
42 replies to this topic

#31 blacktulip

blacktulip

    Crazy About Mini's

  • TMF+ Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,224 posts
  • Location: Braintree

Posted 18 November 2009 - 06:50 PM

reading this i might keep my 998 now :thumbsup:

#32 Reece Jackson

Reece Jackson

    Stage One Kit Fitted

  • Noobies
  • PipPipPip
  • 90 posts

Posted 18 November 2009 - 08:43 PM

reading this i might keep my 998 now :)

i would do mate :thumbsup:

#33 liirge

liirge

    Up Into Fourth

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,097 posts
  • Local Club: EDMC AND MMC

Posted 19 November 2009 - 01:48 AM

yer they're fun little engines really, and pretty bomb proof

#34 mike.

mike.

    Crazy About Mini's

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 6,176 posts

Posted 19 November 2009 - 02:15 AM

I loved my 998, great on long journeys in terms of fuel. My city e engine didn't rev too high on motorways either.

I kept up with my mates 1.1 saxo easily enough and easy trashed it on the lanes.

Apart from a few ignition problems, mine was bombproof.

#35 benpopham

benpopham

    The Carbon Weezel

  • Traders
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,149 posts
  • Location: Southampton

Posted 19 November 2009 - 08:01 AM

I know Iv said it before in other topics, and I couldnt agree more with Liirge and Reece, small bore is the way forward. Im building a Fast road 998 with Swiftune at the moment and swiftune are backing me all the way, and we're aiming for 90bhp. Yes I could get more outright power from a large bore.. but is the BHP figure all its about? or is it more about the power delievery? I have a daily drive of a 85bhp 1330, and yes it fun but how many other people have that exact same spec!?

If your looking for an easy project yes go large bore, but if you want to actually build an engine.. go small bore.

Also its going in a 450kg fully built shell... id like to see a modern day car keep up with me :dontgetit:

Ben

Also.... this forum needs a 998 section.. they have one on Turbo Mini's

Edited by benpopham, 19 November 2009 - 08:01 AM.


#36 liirge

liirge

    Up Into Fourth

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,097 posts
  • Local Club: EDMC AND MMC

Posted 19 November 2009 - 08:39 AM

I know Iv said it before in other topics, and I couldnt agree more with Liirge and Reece, small bore is the way forward. Im building a Fast road 998 with Swiftune at the moment and swiftune are backing me all the way, and we're aiming for 90bhp. Yes I could get more outright power from a large bore.. but is the BHP figure all its about? or is it more about the power delievery? I have a daily drive of a 85bhp 1330, and yes it fun but how many other people have that exact same spec!?

If your looking for an easy project yes go large bore, but if you want to actually build an engine.. go small bore.

Also its going in a 450kg fully built shell... id like to see a modern day car keep up with me :dontgetit:

Ben

Also.... this forum needs a 998 section.. they have one on Turbo Mini's

whats the spec on that one mate?

#37 jaydee

jaydee

    Crazy About Mini's

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 8,565 posts

Posted 19 November 2009 - 09:50 AM

.. but is the BHP figure all its about? or is it more about the power delievery?
If your looking for an easy project yes go large bore, but if you want to actually build an engine.. go small bore.
Also its going in a 450kg fully built shell... id like to see a modern day car keep up with me :dontgetit:
Also.... this forum needs a 998 section.. they have one on Turbo Mini's


_Those are good points Ben, seems like so many people forgot drivability, weight distribution etc.. and are just following the statement 'bigger is power', which isnt actually correct..Most people nowdays is looking for 1380s, but power isnt everything, and a car has to cope with the use the owner makes of it.

Edited by jaydee, 19 November 2009 - 09:54 AM.


#38 benpopham

benpopham

    The Carbon Weezel

  • Traders
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,149 posts
  • Location: Southampton

Posted 19 November 2009 - 10:07 AM

whats the spec on that one mate?


The spec is:
998cc Block + 0.40'' Pocketed
compression ratio of 10.5 to 1
AE +0.40'' pistons press fit
Swiftune 12G940 stage 3 head
3.4 ratio final drive
hardened diff pin
wedged & backdrilled Crank
lightened rods
Weber DCOE45 using one side (Mini7 spec)
Swiftune SW5-07 cam
Swiftune timing gears
Swiftune Straight cut roller drop gears 1:1
Titan 1.3 ratio Roller Rockers
Swiftune ultralite pre-verto flywheel
Ultralite billet Swiftune back plate
Orange diaphragm
Maniflow se7en's manifold
Maniflow stage 2 LCB
Carbon 4 blade Fan
Lightened ISKY cam followers
PoleStar engine management system


_Those are good points Ben, seems like so many people forgot drivability, weight distribution etc.. and are just following the statement 'bigger is power', which isnt actually correct..Most people nowdays is looking for 1380s, but power isnt everything, and a car has to cope with the use the owner makes of it.


Thanks very much... exactly, bigger isnt always better, Iv seen so many less powerful cars out-performing bigger powered cars simply because of the drivability... and then it comes down to car setup... but this thread isnt about the setup just the engine.

So yes, 998 you can get around 100bhp without going turbo.

Ben

#39 liirge

liirge

    Up Into Fourth

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,097 posts
  • Local Club: EDMC AND MMC

Posted 19 November 2009 - 11:07 AM

whats the spec on that one mate?


The spec is:
998cc Block + 0.40'' Pocketed
compression ratio of 10.5 to 1
AE +0.40'' pistons press fit
Swiftune 12G940 stage 3 head
3.4 ratio final drive
hardened diff pin
wedged & backdrilled Crank
lightened rods
Weber DCOE45 using one side (Mini7 spec)
Swiftune SW5-07 cam
Swiftune timing gears
Swiftune Straight cut roller drop gears 1:1
Titan 1.3 ratio Roller Rockers
Swiftune ultralite pre-verto flywheel
Ultralite billet Swiftune back plate
Orange diaphragm
Maniflow se7en's manifold
Maniflow stage 2 LCB
Carbon 4 blade Fan
Lightened ISKY cam followers
PoleStar engine management system


_Those are good points Ben, seems like so many people forgot drivability, weight distribution etc.. and are just following the statement 'bigger is power', which isnt actually correct..Most people nowdays is looking for 1380s, but power isnt everything, and a car has to cope with the use the owner makes of it.


Thanks very much... exactly, bigger isnt always better, Iv seen so many less powerful cars out-performing bigger powered cars simply because of the drivability... and then it comes down to car setup... but this thread isnt about the setup just the engine.

So yes, 998 you can get around 100bhp without going turbo.

Ben


That's a nice spec you have there, where did you get the Carbon fan from? this is an area I've been looking at trying to save the Horsepower loss from.

#40 Dan

Dan

    On Sabbatical

  • TMF+ Member
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 21,354 posts

Posted 19 November 2009 - 11:32 AM

Also.... this forum needs a 998 section.. they have one on Turbo Mini's


It just needs members with manners who are willing to let a thread about 998s remain as a thread about 998s without jumping all over it. The same goes for threads about autoboxes, certain members stick their oar in every time and start shouting 'ditch it, get a manual'.

#41 benpopham

benpopham

    The Carbon Weezel

  • Traders
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,149 posts
  • Location: Southampton

Posted 19 November 2009 - 07:36 PM

That's a nice spec you have there, where did you get the Carbon fan from? this is an area I've been looking at trying to save the Horsepower loss from.


Thank you very much.. It taken alot of thinking about and talking to alot of different people, but Im getting there.

Iv made the carbon fan :thumbsup: www.carbonweezel.co.uk/fan
It been tested over the last 6 months daily, and have had no problems... works wonders ;)

It just needs members with manners who are willing to let a thread about 998s remain as a thread about 998s without jumping all over it. The same goes for threads about autoboxes, certain members stick their oar in every time and start shouting 'ditch it, get a manual'.


Yes I agree... too many people on here who just want to be nasty.

#42 Reece Jackson

Reece Jackson

    Stage One Kit Fitted

  • Noobies
  • PipPipPip
  • 90 posts

Posted 19 November 2009 - 09:09 PM

thats a really nice spec you have there ben i can't wait till im 17 and can have a 998 on the road so i can give some saxos a run for there money. my engine has be so difficult to get right in my class i have to try and make it keep up with 1071's motors is this do able......??

#43 GTIAlex06

GTIAlex06

    Camshaft & Stage Two Head

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 1,562 posts

Posted 19 November 2009 - 10:47 PM

Also.... this forum needs a 998 section.. they have one on Turbo Mini's


It just needs members with manners who are willing to let a thread about 998s remain as a thread about 998s without jumping all over it. The same goes for threads about autoboxes, certain members stick their oar in every time and start shouting 'ditch it, get a manual'.


Amen




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users