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#1 myredmini

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 07:28 PM

... Hi, i am going to be starting to paint my car when i have comleted the welding. I just need to explain what i am going to be doing and ask a few questions so i can do it and achieve the best quality i can. I am borrowing a compressor from a friend and a gun. I will be possibly going mini chilli red, which i will get mixed at halfords. I will be covering my garage in plastic for dust and overspray reasons. Just a few questions;

1) will i be ok using red primer on the few bits of filler and using 800 wet-and-dry on the old paint as its in good condition ?
2) how much paint will i need ?
3) could someone send me a link for a good thinner which i could use to mix with the paint.
4) how long should i leave the paint between coats ?
5) do i need to rub the paint with 800 wet-and-dry before i put every coat on, and panel wipe again ?
6) could people post some pictures up of there car before during and after please, would be much appriciated >_<

Danny.

#2 myredmini

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 08:18 PM

can anyone help ??? how come jokes and stupid posts get more replies than threads where people need help ? and yes i have read the thread in the paint section about painting cars.

Edited by myredmini, 14 April 2010 - 08:18 PM.


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Posted 14 April 2010 - 08:20 PM

Have you looked at the pinned topic?

http://www.theminifo...showtopic=27741

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 08:22 PM

yess i have, read it word for word, and i have just a few little questions i would like answering but, peoples jokes seem to be more important on here sometimes >_<

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 08:28 PM

... Hi, i am going to be starting to paint my car when i have comleted the welding. I just need to explain what i am going to be doing and ask a few questions so i can do it and achieve the best quality i can. I am borrowing a compressor from a friend and a gun. I will be possibly going mini chilli red, which i will get mixed at halfords. I will be covering my garage in plastic for dust and overspray reasons. Just a few questions;

1) will i be ok using red primer on the few bits of filler and using 800 wet-and-dry on the old paint as its in good condition ?
2) how much paint will i need ?
3) could someone send me a link for a good thinner which i could use to mix with the paint.
4) how long should i leave the paint between coats ?
5) do i need to rub the paint with 800 wet-and-dry before i put every coat on, and panel wipe again ?
6) could people post some pictures up of there car before during and after please, would be much appriciated >_<

Danny.


Ok then!!

Filler needs to be applied onto bare metal, if the existing paint is good then theres no need to re-prime, just key the paint with scotchbrite.
Depends on what paint you use and are you painting inside out/roof etc
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Don't bother with Halfords, find a local paint supplier, they will give to the proper advice for their product.

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 08:58 PM

try jawel paints for you paint pal, my dad has just got stuff from there and said their primer (if you end up buying primer) is the best hes ever used

quite cheap and they sent plenty

just google jawel... if you havnt left yet

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 09:00 PM

no i havent left, i am a bit wound up at the moment and im sorry, thanks adam >_<

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 09:02 PM

Topic has only been open for a day dude, you will get all the help you need just chill

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 09:03 PM

i know, im sorry >_<

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 09:05 PM

i know, im sorry >_<

I'm sure you can be forgiven lol, i wish i could help you out but i dont know too much about painting besides whats said in the topic that was linked earlier :thumbsup:

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 09:06 PM

its ok mate dont worry >_<

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 09:07 PM

Hi Danny

Have a look at my rebuild thread as I have just painted mine.

There's plenty to look at, including the bits that went wrong.

I bought 6lts of paint but I did the underside and inside as well, 1/2 that would be sufficient for just the outside.

Best thinners? depends on the paint you use.

Time between coats. Dependent on paint type and wher you paint, temp etc.

As the others have said, a local paint supplier will give free advice and much better value than the big stores.

The guy I bought my paint from was superb.

Good luck

Steve

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 09:09 PM

Thanks steve, yes i was about to look at your thread, its great, hows it coming along ?

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Posted 14 April 2010 - 10:35 PM

... Hi, i am going to be s
tarting to paint my car when i have comleted the welding. I just need to explain what i am going to be doing and ask a few questions so i can do it and achieve the best quality i can. I am borrowing a compressor from a friend and a gun. I will be possibly going mini chilli red, which i will get mixed at halfords. I will be covering my garage in plastic for dust and overspray reasons. Just a few questions;

1) will i be ok using red primer on the few bits of filler and using 800 wet-and-dry on the old paint as its in good condition ?
2) how much paint will i need ?
3) could someone send me a link for a good thinner which i could use to mix with the paint.
4) how long should i leave the paint between coats ?
5) do i need to rub the paint with 800 wet-and-dry before i put every coat on, and panel wipe again ?
6) could people post some pictures up of there car before during and after please, would be much appriciated >_<

Danny.


1. So long as it's high build primer, it should be ok, if it's aerosol, rub down the filler as normal then finish with a finer grande than normal, say 320, then apply about 5 or more coats. Although ideally you should apply filler to bare metal, good quality modern polyester filler is usually fine over paint, so long as the paint is well keyed with 80 grit.

2. If you're using cellulose as we discussed, then you will need about 6 coats. I would buy 3 litres if you're just doing the outside, or 5/6 if you're doing the inside as well. Remember you mix it 50:50 with thinners so that ends up being double the amount.

3. Any cellulose thinner is fine, so long as it's not gunwash! Ideally you would use an anti bloom cellulose thinner, if you're doing it at home. This stops the paint "blooming" which means the paint goes kind of cloudy, usually caused by cold and dampness.

4. Leave each coat to become touch dry, this happens rather quickly with cellulose.

5. With cellulose you should apply around 4 to 5 coats mixed at a ratio of 50:50 with the thinners, no need to rub down between coats at all, unless you have any major particles or bits of sh*t, runs etc. Before the final coat, and making sure the paint is dry enough to flat, rub it down with 800 wet and dry, removing any imperfections. For the final coat, mix the paint at a 60:40 ratio, the 60 being the thinners, this helps the paint flow out, and gives a shiner final finish.

6. This is a mini I painted recently in cellulose, using the above techniques, and without a booth.

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Posted 15 April 2010 - 08:17 PM

What pete has said is spot on, especially about the celly, mix it 60:40 for the final coat to get the shine, otherwise it will dry dull and will take longer to flat and polish.

Go to a local paint supplier (or jawel who I use) for paint, never go to halfords for paint unless its just for aerosols (which they are quite good for), their colour matching is awful, and its usually acrylic based, not celly or 2k.




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