23 replies to this topic

[PhilipGCaldwell]

Im going to buy a dandy dart trailer tent soon, its approx 350 kg, its 5ft wide and 9 ft long in total size
Does anyone do the same, just wondering how they tow behind a mini, its a 998 engine with stage 1 kit

[twrminisport]

ive got a standard 998 and tow motorbikes on the back of mine no trouble. About the same weight aswell. just be careful if thats the weight unloaded because the max for a mini saloon on 410kg and when you start loading the trailer with water and other gear itll go up. but they tow fine. i dont even notice 1 bike on the back 2 or 3 i notice but its not significant

[PhilipGCaldwell]

thanks for that, its gonna be 350kg fully laden, i have a good few kg to play with then, thanks for the info, i didnt know it was 410kg max, i may look to get the next size up then maybe?hmmm, ponder ponder!

[lrostoke]

998 stage 1 will pull no problem, used mine tow a trailer down to Cornwall last year, sat at motorway speeds for hours on end. No worries. Even the big hills on A30 didn't phase it

[mini_stella]

I thought that the max towing weight was 750kg??

[lrostoke]

750kg is legal limit, but your car will have a specified towing limit set by the manufactorer in the case of a mini I think its 404kg

This is interesting

http://www.ntta.co.u...ion_plates.aspx

Now from that website it states this, which may just be a safe guideline not a legal requirement.

Type 01: unbraked trailers - max. 750kg gross trailer weight or half the towing vehicle's kerb weight - whichever is less. By that guideline you would only be towing 319kg

Weights
Kerb weight:
Saloon (rubber cone suspension):
Manual transmission . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 638 kg
Automatic transmission . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 658 kg
Saloon (Hydrolastic suspension):
Manual transmission . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 679.5 kg
Automatic transmission . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 699.3 kg
Estate . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 686.7 kg
Van . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 621.5 kg
Pick-up . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 622.4 kg
Maximum towing weights:
Saloon . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 404 kg
Estate, Van and Pick-up . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 303 kg
Maximum towing hitch load . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 45 kg
Maximum roof rack load . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40 kg

Edited by lrostoke, 27 May 2010 - 11:40 AM.

[mini_stella]

wouldn't that depend on the engine ize of the mini, im only asing cause im lookin to tow a caravan with my 1275 with modified suspension

Edited by mini_stella, 27 May 2010 - 11:43 AM.

[Dolly 89]

750kg is legal limit, but your car will have a specified towing limit set by the manufactorer in the case of a mini I think its 404kg

This is interesting

http://www.ntta.co.u...ion_plates.aspx

Now from that website it states this, which may just be a safe guideline not a legal requirement.

Type 01: unbraked trailers - max. 750kg gross trailer weight or half the towing vehicle's kerb weight - whichever is less. By that guideline you would only be towing 319kg

Weights
Kerb weight:
Saloon (rubber cone suspension):
Manual transmission . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 638 kg
Automatic transmission . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 658 kg
Saloon (Hydrolastic suspension):
Manual transmission . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 679.5 kg
Automatic transmission . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 699.3 kg
Estate . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 686.7 kg
Van . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 621.5 kg
Pick-up . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 622.4 kg
Maximum towing weights:
Saloon . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 404 kg
Estate, Van and Pick-up . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 303 kg
Maximum towing hitch load . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 45 kg
Maximum roof rack load . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 40 kg

the rule for legal purposes is the trailer loaded has to weigh less than half the car unloaded or 750kg whichever is less got that from dvla when i used to tow alot (not with a mini) this is after the license changes in 1997 i beleive but havent looked it up in a long time and dont know about before that and also dont know what is safe to tow with the car

[lrostoke]

In that case 319kg seems to be the legal max limit you should be towing.

[bmcecosse]

I used to tow my racing Mini on a trailer - behind my 1098 road Mini! Braking was the problem............

Edited by bmcecosse, 27 May 2010 - 01:23 PM.

[Dolly 89]

sorry to hijack the thread but im thinking about starting motocross again so where did you lot get your towbar from and also twrminisport what sort of trailer do you use to tow your bikes with cheers

[greenlaner1]

sorry to hijack the thread but im thinking about starting motocross again so where did you lot get your towbar from and also twrminisport what sort of trailer do you use to tow your bikes with cheers

i got my towbar from ebay A1 towing iirc

GL1

[PhilipGCaldwell]

i got my towbar off ebay, was £70

Edited by PhilipGCaldwell, 27 May 2010 - 02:39 PM.

[Dolly 89]

cheers guys

[wolfie]

Been covered several times although the mini can and will tow many small trailers fine its illigal unless the trailers braked, hense the 750kg or half the kerbweight guidlines above dont apply, the official rover towing limits say 404kg for braked trailer only no listing for unbraked therefore you are taking a chance with an unbraked trailer

That said the chances of ever being stopped and this brought to light ar slim at best