22 replies to this topic

[tadleysimon]

hrm, i see,

still cant be doing will drilling the subframe tho,

also, i noticed your name is simon,

[mad mk1]

hrm, i see,

still cant be doing will drilling the subframe tho,

also, i noticed your name is simon,

what the speed holes lol

[Ivor Badger]

the reason it helps is because the 2 wheels are no longer independent.

when you go round a corner the outside wheel is under stress so therefore the suspension gets compressed, the inside wheel has the weight lifted off of and the body of the car lifts, or 'rolls'

with the roll bar fitted, the outside wheel when under stress twists the bar and transfers some of the force to the other wheel. therefore flattening the car out.

im struggling to explain myself so here
http://auto.howstuff...question432.htm

The reason you are struggling to explain is because you haven't read your link correctly and don't know how it works. So try again.

[tadleysimon]

the reason it helps is because the 2 wheels are no longer independent.

when you go round a corner the outside wheel is under stress so therefore the suspension gets compressed, the inside wheel has the weight lifted off of and the body of the car lifts, or 'rolls'

with the roll bar fitted, the outside wheel when under stress twists the bar and transfers some of the force to the other wheel. therefore flattening the car out.

im struggling to explain myself so here
http://auto.howstuff...question432.htm

The reason you are struggling to explain is because you haven't read your link correctly and don't know how it works. So try again.

and the award for the most stuck up response goes to...

if you cant contribute to the thread then dont post,
if you wanted to correct me and therefore help by adding information in some way then fine, but no, you went for the 'i know better so i am better than you' approach.

shove it up your arse you arrogant pecker

[Ivor Badger]

the reason it helps is because the 2 wheels are no longer independent.

when you go round a corner the outside wheel is under stress so therefore the suspension gets compressed, the inside wheel has the weight lifted off of and the body of the car lifts, or 'rolls'

with the roll bar fitted, the outside wheel when under stress twists the bar and transfers some of the force to the other wheel. therefore flattening the car out.

im struggling to explain myself so here
http://auto.howstuff...question432.htm

The reason you are struggling to explain is because you haven't read your link correctly and don't know how it works. So try again.

and the award for the most stuck up response goes to...

if you cant contribute to the thread then dont post,
if you wanted to correct me and therefore help by adding information in some way then fine, but no, you went for the 'i know better so i am better than you' approach.

shove it up your arse you arrogant pecker

Since you are the one who starts the initial post asking the question and then posts a link to tell everyone the answer and they are wrong. All this without actually understanding the link. Who exactly is not contributing to the thread? So you have absolutely no concept of how and what on anti roll bar does, I wouldn't bother fitting one as you probably wouldn't notice the difference.

As I have told many people in my garage over the years "if you don't want the answer, don't ask the question".

and by the way, my car just happens to have a genuine Special Tuning rose jointed anti bar on it.

[Azbornmini]

the rear one is a little different isnt it! i thought they all mounted right toward the back of the sub frame?

so the front one has 2 mounts on each side, its not connected to the sub frame at all?

and is one of the mounts solid and one bushed?

There can be an issue with this bar and it's mounts to the sub frame location as side exit exhaust have to be watched that the rear box doesn't foul on the bar. Some center exit rear boxes that are a bit longer also benefit from placing 3/4" spacer blocks under the mounts at the sub frame.

As far as the front bar is concerned, you are correct that the one mount is a solid clamp and the rearward mount is adjustable by loosening it and sliding it forward or backward on the tie rod.

To be honest with you I don't really see the need for a front bar on my Mini. With the rear tighten up that should be all I need for the road. But I hope to be able to auto cross this fall (21 yrs since last time) and I am hoping that I can use the front bar to an advantage. In current configuration the turn in on this little beast is amazing, very quick and the rear end is very predictable by tracking nicely.

[benallen]

arrogant pecker... that language is disgusting simon!you silly nilly.

[benallen]

another thing simon...which im sure youll agree is a VERY serious matter. you posted a thread asking about the technical feautres of the positioning of anti roll bars. i feel this would be much better suited in either the technical problems or the bodywork sections as it has more relavence. now im sure your disapointed in yourself, but dont worry its ok everyones allowed to slipup every now and again.