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#16 minisilverbullet

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 04:02 PM

Get a grip all you haters!

Its just a calendar, albeit one of my favourite components of TMF!

Although I am no (insert name of famous photographer here) I gotta admit some of the pictures are of low quality! I remember on which had am empty bottle of fizzy juice in the image! And on the other hand some of the images are simply stunning! I believe their is one in the Sept vote of a really stunning silver mini!!!!

As has been said, Roberts does this out of his own time and perhaps we should all be reminded of this! Probably the offenders are feeling a little embarrassed at the moment! We all love our cars but at the end of the day there can only be one winner each month - just live with it!

On a separate note Im sure you will sell 33 calenders this year if my mini goes in, maybe 34 (i will buy one for my mum)! :D

It would be sad to see the calender dissolve!!!!!

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 04:04 PM

I was gonna buy one last year , cant remember why though
Would most probably buy one this year if its carried on

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 04:15 PM

I wonder if we can run the competition without anyone having to stand in the firing line?

That would mean the rules being applied with zero flexibility or assistance, see if the grouches like having more to grumble about & no one to grumble to.


I guess it'd also mean "single transferable voting" :D . - once the deadline passes the top few nominations go head to head, as now.

Can anyone knock together a filter that will only accept 1 piccy, of the right size, per member? I guess we'd need a forum online file to keep them in?

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 04:20 PM

PM sent

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 04:22 PM

I wonder if we can run the competition without anyone having to stand in the firing line?

That would mean the rules being applied with zero flexibility or assistance, see if the grouches like having more to grumble about & no one to grumble to.


I guess it'd also mean "single transferable voting" :D . - once the deadline passes the top few nominations go head to head, as now.

Can anyone knock together a filter that will only accept 1 piccy, of the right size, per member? I guess we'd need a forum online file to keep them in?


If something could be done so that I don't get the blame I would happily do it again next year. The problem is there is often 20+ photos put forward, of which many of them are not up to the "5 vote for me" standard - so unless we introduce a vote with every single photo put forward, somebody somewhere will get the abuse.

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Posted 17 September 2010 - 04:36 PM

It's really a matter for one of the team who can take a spanner to under the forum's bonnet, but I can't see it being too much of a problem to have nominations leading to a final cut for a vote.

Even if we had a dedicated photo competition section so each piccy could have its own topic, using the current polling add on, it would be clunky but workable. The moderators could police it and close any topics that don't follow the rules.

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 12:25 AM

I came up with a plan B, or is it C? :D

The winner gets to select the entries for next 3 monthly competitions as part of a judging panel of 3 preceding winners. It'd give them something to do while they are barred from taking over the calendar, to give the rest of us a chance.

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 09:42 PM

I would love to take it over, but I dont have the know how. Plus I like entering my photos, and have been lucky enough to get both of them in the calenders over the last 2 years.

Hope it does not get canned. I will be buying this years again too.

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 09:43 PM

Double post

Edited by mymini007, 18 November 2010 - 09:43 PM.


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Posted 18 November 2010 - 10:11 PM

Id love to take over put i have got the know how, or the time to be honest. I was really gutted i forgot to sent you a full sized photo when u chose mine for the vote this year :thumbsup:

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 11:27 PM

Personally I think you do a Brilliant Job......there always a few Knob Heads who think they can do better but they NEVER come forward.................I hope you continue to do this calender as the members chose the photos them selfves ...........well done :thumbsup:

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 11:32 PM

well they are up for sale now and i have bought one so all the hard work has been worth it in the end :(

Thanks! :thumbsup:

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 12:45 AM

Roberts, have you reported these instances of abuse?

Drop me a PM and we can discuss it if you like, we don't tolerate people abusing other members on here, let alone members providing the forum with a cool service such as your competition.


I've never reported things - as it's there own opinion to something, they think there photo is worth a pick - fair enough, I can live with that.

Basically, the two F Off's have been after the votes are created - I occasionally get an email with a photo that wasn't selected attached and the photographer will simply ask "can I ask why my photo wasn't selected?".

Often the answer is simply either "your Mini is great, the angle and shot is great but it's parked on your drive, go take a drive to a nice location and remember you take your camera with you" or "your Mini is great, the angle is great but the lighting is bad so it won't print very well, next time make sure the camera isn't pointing at the sun (unless you know how to alter your shutter speed)".

Most people get back to me with a "thanks, I'll try that" - and in many cases re-submit photos a few months later. However two people obviously didn't want to take my advice and preferred to tell me where to shuv it - fair enough, whatever keeps them happy.

I stand by my decisions though & I think 99.9% off TMF members agree that the quality of images in the vote is always high. So a quick walk out side to where your Mini is parked with a mobile phone camera simply doesn't cut the mustard.

As for the other issues, as I said, already had one apology, since my initial post here the other member has admitted that his "message was written in haste and could of been phrased better".

So nothing needs to be done, simply for whatever reason some people are treating this calendar as if it's a matter of life and death - something I find hard to understand considering only 32 people purchased last years calendar!!



Roberts,
anyone who puts in the effort to produce a calendar (magazine, journal, newspaper...) has a complete right to "editorial control" - i.e. to choose which pics make it to the voting stage.
"the publishers decision is final..." and when you produce a calendar then the quality of the images is (let's face it) the all important factor.
You have an absolute right to say yes or no to any picture based solely on your own personal taste - (that's the fun part [and the responsibility]) and I'll drink to that because I know how much
effort is involved in producing a decent quality volume print product. So don't be daunted by the detractors - quite the opposite - publish and be damned.
It's a shame if a few idiots have sent hate mail but don't give up the calendar - it's a nice "bolt on" to TMF and a good ad for your company.

Stick with it - get onto the US and Jap forums and watch sales quadruple...

BUT - if you are honestly and really fed up of the whole enterprise PM me and I'll take it on. (you can buy ad space at a reduced rate for the first three months). :thumbsup:

Seriously though - you've got the whole thing established and running well - don't let a couple of nutters knock you off course.

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As for the forum side of things (if it's written in php ???) it shouldn't be to difficult modify the standard voting function to include something like (off the top of my head
and having not written code for a living for a while....)

$sql = mysql_query("SELECT $id FROM members");
while($row = mysql_fetch_array($sql)){
$uploaded = $row["CALENDAR_PIC && $month
(use "getdate" or any other version- needs a get month function or maybe a get NEXT month function, could also limit to 1 per month and / or 12 per year here) "];
$limited = $row["pic_uploaded"];

etc etc etc

and then....

PRINT (or echo into a blip box) "You have already entered a picture for the $month Calendar".

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Note to self - must remind myself of php syntax before giving out advice in public when tipsy... :(

I'm off to write a function - Roberts - get yourself off and write The publishers decision is final and more than one entry will disqualify you in your calendar posts...


Best wishes
Monty

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 10:02 AM

Monty good points I understand this, thanks much appreciated!!

But it's not about me personally, I personally couldn't give a flying one about the complaints and abuse I've received - but Optimise Automotive does, as it's potentially lost customers. It's sad why I have to look at things like that, but it's my bread and butter.

I'm going to assess how the sales go this year and I might introduce a best of photo for 2012 as we have 3 years of amazing photos to choose from. If we do a best of for next year we can start instantly to look further ahead and start the 2013 calendar a long time before 2013.

So it can be for sale at shows 6 months before 2013 - so if you like in January 2011 you will be putting forward photos for the January 2013.

Anyway as I said I'll re-assess everything after this years is finished.

EDIT: spelling

Edited by roberts, 19 November 2010 - 10:13 AM.


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Posted 19 November 2010 - 10:53 AM

Id also be happy to take this on - send me a PM if you cant find anyone to take the reigns (sp?)




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