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#1 01smartc

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Posted 24 December 2005 - 12:06 AM

Hi there just wondering if anybody knows how much it would cost ot have a Swiftune SW5 cam fitted to my mini mayfair 998cc. any help will be great. thanks

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Posted 24 December 2005 - 02:11 AM

about £100 for one of the decent kits from swiftune,

the side of a cereal packet to make a gasket from for the timing cover (mate of mine does this, and he's yet to have a problem with his!)

tin-snips to cut away a small section of your inner-wing

new gaskets for the tappet covers

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unlike a 1275 (excluding the S blocks) the small-bore blocks dont need to be stripped down to change the cam - and it can be done in-situ if you remove a small bit of the inner-wing to pass the cam through!

And also, if you remove the rocker shaft, and the rockers (leave the pedestals intact) you wont have to change the head gasket after removing the pushrods (if you remove teh rocker pedestals, you decompress the head gasket, meaning you'll need another one!)

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Posted 24 December 2005 - 10:09 AM

the side of a cereal packet to make a gasket from for the timing cover (mate of mine does this, and he's yet to have a problem with his!)


use a propper gasket, gaskets are a specific thickness and also the timing cover is prone to leak..

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Posted 24 December 2005 - 01:16 PM

i dont think i would risk doing it myself, how much would a garage charge to do it?

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Posted 24 December 2005 - 01:23 PM

i dont think i would risk doing it myself, how much would a garage charge to do it?

It depends on how they opt to do it. Alot of garages would be a bit shy about cutting a hole in the inner wing of a car to change the camshaft. The other thing to consider, is the purchase of some decent timing gear, or even offset woodruf keys. It's all well and good having a decent cam in an engine, but you need to time it up accurately to get the full benefits. :wink:

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Posted 24 December 2005 - 02:25 PM

yer i am getting new timing gear, a good set, but i am on a budget and fitting is included so i cant decide what to buy untill i know how much the fitting will be.

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Posted 24 December 2005 - 05:25 PM

the side of a cereal packet to make a gasket from for the timing cover (mate of mine does this, and he's yet to have a problem with his!)


use a propper gasket, gaskets are a specific thickness and also the timing cover is prone to leak..

lol, I didn't beleive him when he said about it at first either - then he showed me the jagged edges of a frosties box around his timing case :wub:

been like that for a good couple of years with no problems either - we're guessing that it's the glossy bit that helps though, since there's a chance that it might semi-melt onto the mating surface




as soon as he gets a leak, we'll strip it down and have a look at it :wink:

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Posted 24 December 2005 - 06:18 PM

there is no mention of dial gauges and protractors...there isn't much point in getting an SW% (have got one and they are great) unless you get the timing spot on.....in theory you could line them up by eye, but this is not accurate, and if your timing is more than a degree or so out then you will loose power. Guess works sent me a pick of how to set cam timing...it was easy

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Posted 24 December 2005 - 06:41 PM

Can someone please just give me a figure on how much they cost to install. thanks

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Posted 24 December 2005 - 07:02 PM

OK,

Let's assume the garage IS willing to cut a hole in your wing,

You'll need a few new gaskets - £10
You'll be paying for say 3-4 hours work - anything from £75-150 and upwards
You'll be paying for the camshaft - £dunno

total fitting - £85-160??

Let's assume they don't want to cut your cars inner wing open and lift the engine for access

same as above only a couple more hours work. Labour at yer average garage being £25 - £45 per hour.

total fitting - £150-200??

There are alot of variables though with the cost. They might find it needs new followers (another £15-20 maybe unless you get a kit with them included).

Your best bet would be to find a Mini friendly mechanic (maybe even someone off this site) who would do it for maybe £100 all in?

That is all guess work and estimates, so I may be proved wrong by someone who has had it done somewhere.

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Posted 24 December 2005 - 07:29 PM

thanks alot thats what i was looking for.

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Posted 24 December 2005 - 08:09 PM

new followers are a must but they come in the sw5 cam kit, fitting cost couple of hundred plus the cam, so do u have an uprated head? and a stage one kit and electonic ing system? if not you will do better sending money here first

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Posted 24 December 2005 - 08:49 PM

i have a uprated head, stage 1 kit but whats a "electonic ing system"?

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Posted 25 December 2005 - 09:48 AM

electronic ignition is what he means i think

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Posted 25 December 2005 - 12:04 PM

whats that??




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