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[Sir Cheat]

Hi guys.. Can i use braided fuel lines under the full length of my Mini and pass an MOT like this?? Anyone know...


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[Stevee]

no they'll throw a hissy fit

if you run it inside the car its fine


if that hose came lost and caught something it could be dangerous

[colinu]

I bought similar braided fuel line a year ago and it had no problems with the MOT. I ran it underneath the car (securing it with P-clips) from the petrol tank to the mechanical fuel pump - way easier than trying to replace the original hardlines.

[Dan]

if you run it inside the car its fine

Bad advice, you may not run flexible fuel lines inside the car. Any lines inside the car must be of solid material with no joints. Flexible hose under the car would be acceptable, but maybe not the best idea. It would be very easily damaged and the braid won't protect it that much.

[TopCatCustom]

Are you sure? A guy who I work with sometimes has a big workhop and prepares rally cars always runs stainless braided fuel lines, along with dry sump pipes and brake lines through the car. He used to travel the world with Ford and M-Sport and has been in top teams his whole career, so he must know what is allowed with MSA regs etc, which should tie in with road cars?

[Burnard]

I run a braided fuel line inside my car (all joins either side of the bulkheads) no one has ever said anything negative about the idea.

I dont actually have any lines running under the length of the floor due to how low the car is, just don't want to risk snagging them on anything. Which im pretty sure i did at MITP as the pedal was getting a little softer on the way home.

[Wil_h]

MSA states that braided or solid can be run inside the car, but no joints within the passenger compartment.

I can't see where in the MOT braided lines inside the car could fail.

[liirge]

if you run it inside the car its fine

Bad advice, you may not run flexible fuel lines inside the car. Any lines inside the car must be of solid material with no joints. Flexible hose under the car would be acceptable, but maybe not the best idea. It would be very easily damaged and the braid won't protect it that much.

Incorrect, flexible braided is allowed but it has to be one continuous piece through the entire of the cabin. Appropriately secured

Edited by liirge, 20 January 2011 - 11:40 AM.

[Dan]

Ok so maybe I'm wrong but as far as I'm aware the construction and use regulations do not permit flexible lines inside the cabin. I don't know why anyone would assume the MSA regs would have even the slightest thing to do with con & use, race cars and road cars are very different. And as we say time and again (although as ever most people seem not to listen) the MOT does not check that your car is road legal, only that it is safe. The test does not assume that anyone would modify their car to this extent, there are other tests in place for that. Mass produced cars have to pass the con & use or Euro Type approval that is in place when they are built, and comply with those regs forever. I know the IVA allows braided hose but as far as I'm aware the con & use doesn't and if you want to change the car so that IVA applies you will have to actually put it through the IVA.

[jamie@thefatgarage]

I have several cars with braided fuel hoses running under the car and all have passed MOT's. One has joins onto and off a fuel pump mounted under the car and that also passed.

[TopCatCustom]

I don't know why anyone would assume the MSA regs would have even the slightest thing to do with con & use, race cars and road cars are very different.

I'm not trying to start an arguement here- but given the thousands of rally cars that are and have to be road registered, and hundreds of race cars that also have to be road registered (to comply with some racing series' rules), I think it is very reasonable to assume that MSA regs would take into consideration that a large percentage of cars prepared for motorsport have to also be registered on the road. Also the whole point of MSA regs are to make these cars safer.