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[scrog]

ok so may be a stupid question but what are the difference's between
an rs and st focus as in power and spec

[sonikk4]

Try these websites for your answers, they are different animals especially under the skin.
http://www.pistonhea...p?storyId=11855

http://www.rs-ford.c...d-focus-rs-mk2/

[fordson]

i use to work in a ford garage when i was at collage and have driven both of the older versions of the cars. there both pretty lively to drive to saw the least. the rs does torque steer like a pig thought

[sonikk4]

Although i have not driven the new RS the new Knuckle is supposed to eliminate a lot of the torque steer but when you are throwing over 300 horses through the front wheels there will still be some torque steer although nowhere near as bad as the original MK1 RS Focus.

I think Ford really messed up by not incorporating 4WD in both of these beasties for the public. For front wheel drive motors though they are still cracking cars. If my daily commute was less than 10 miles then i would love to own them.

There's a thought for Ford how about a diesel powered RS, VW have rallied a diesel golf and Seat was quite successful with there Diesel BTCC car. Go on give it a go.

[fordson]

i know what you mean about the four wheel drive even if it was like a limited run or somthing. i can really past judgment on the newer version a i havent driven either of them

[ClareST]

For a start, the ST has 225bhp, and the RS 300bhp, using the same 5 cylinder engine.

The RS has bigger wheels, brakes and has the Revo-knuckle suspension system.

Plus the obvious visual differences, the ST can look pretty 'ordinary' compared to an RS.

There's a thought for Ford how about a diesel powered RS, VW have rallied a diesel golf and Seat was quite successful with there Diesel BTCC car. Go on give it a go.

Diesel... Noooooooo!!

[TopCatCustom]

I thought they were the same underneath- and just different in trim, engine and fancy bits!

You think the RS at 300bhp is bad for torque steer- the new RS500 is FWD too, IMO a ridiculous decision!

[scrog]

we had a new MINI Cooper s (turbo) as a loan car and the torque steer on that was dangerous

if you put your foot down to overtake and touched a white line it was all over the place

mind you think it was down to run flat tyres and a crap diff

the Type R is spot on

Edited by scrog, 17 July 2011 - 10:24 AM.

[cooperdan]

Ive got a focus st 2 and im very happy with it, nice power output and drives beautiful..

As said the rs are 300bhp etc...and extra few thousand lol

[R1minimagic]

The type R doesn't have any torque!!

[ibrooks]

What got me was that everyone seemed to be surprised when the Focus RS came out and people found that it suffered from torque steer - was the Escort RS Turbo really so long ago that they didn't remember that trying to control a lot of power to the front wheels using an LSD resulted in a car that would drag you all over the road. At 70 an RS Turbo would drag you all the way to lane 3 of the motorway if you planted the accelerator. Even an XR3i could drag you around if you weren't ready for it.

Iain

[Leon_mini]

http://www.parkers.co.uk/

have a scan through there they cover everything you could think off

[Burnard]

The difference is, people who own an ST spend their life explaining why they don't have an RS.

[Burnard]

I thought they were the same underneath- and just different in trim, engine and fancy bits!

You think the RS at 300bhp is bad for torque steer- the new RS500 is FWD too, IMO a ridiculous decision!

just read that...
The RS500 isnt a new car, its a limited production run ( A last hurrar if you will) of the then current focus (now been replaced by the MK3 focus)
They made 500 of them with 350ish BHP, and an option for a matte lacquer over the standard paint to give you matte black or matte white (its the same laqure they use on the new M3 and fiat arbarths).


They used to say the limit for an FWD car was 200bhp, but that was before the new developments in suspension and differential technology, they haven't quite found the limit now, but i think its arround the 400bhp mark.

[scrog]

The type R doesn't have any torque!!

143 lol but get it in v tec and its smiles all the way to 8250rpm