27 replies to this topic

[izzy]

they look nice!

[Monstrous]

Thought i recognised them, they were strapped to my G40, they're standard fitment on the G40 as mentioned previously

[lowandslow]

so are you going to use wobble bolts? as vw are 4x100 not 4x101.6 like the mini. if you just wind the bolts on as they are the studs will bend and could snap on you

[tadleysimon]

cant use wobble bolts on a mini as the nuts centre the wheels, if you want to run those wheels properly, im afraid theres some machining to me done...

[lowandslow]

cant use wobble bolts on a mini as the nuts centre the wheels, if you want to run those wheels properly, im afraid theres some machining to me done...

thats a good call dude

Edited by lowandslow, 30 July 2011 - 12:17 PM.

[tieclubbyestate]

cant use wobble bolts on a mini as the nuts centre the wheels, if you want to run those wheels properly, im afraid theres some machining to me done...

what do you mean? they fit well what could go wrong?

[karlj]

if they're bbs they should be stamped on the inside, they'll also have the model code stamped on the inside as well

[tadleysimon]

to the untrained eye they fit well, as you wouldnt notice 1.6mm across two studs. you can level then across the two so it will only look 0.8mm out. not enough to notice with the naked eye.

but when you tighten the nuts down, they will find there own centre, witch is different on the wheel and the drive flange. 1.6mm different.
this will mean the studs will bend to suit and therefore can snap under stress. in other words, you could find your wheel falling off on the motorway or halfway round a corner.

so you have 3 options.

1. risk it, chances are you wont notice anything for a while, but after youve had the wheels off once or twice, those studs are going to get weak.
2. get the wheels machined so that the are 4x101.6 (thats 4inches)
3. get the drive flanges and rear drums machined so the studs sit at 4x100

why do you think you dont see many mins with vw wheels?

Edited by tadleysimon, 30 July 2011 - 02:54 PM.

[tieclubbyestate]

to the untrained eye they fit well, as you wouldnt notice 1.6mm across two studs. you can level then across the two so it will only look 0.8mm out. not enough to notice with the naked eye.

but when you tighten the nuts down, they will find there own centre, witch is different on the wheel and the drive flange. 1.6mm different.
this will mean the studs will bend to suit and therefore can snap under stress. in other words, you could find your wheel falling off on the motorway or halfway round a corner.

so you have 3 options.

1. risk it, chances are you wont notice anything for a while, but after youve had the wheels off once or twice, those studs are going to get weak.
2. get the wheels machined so that the are 4x101.6 (thats 4inches)
3. get the drive flanges and rear drums machined so the studs sit at 4x100

why do you think you dont see many mins with vw wheels?

how and where do i get them machined?

[lowandslow]

the other option is to get adapters made up to take you from the mini pcd to the vw pcd. this will mean the wheel will be spaced out by around 20mm each side though.

[Shifty]

Some good advice given here and you'd be well advised to take it.

[tadleysimon]

the other option is to get adapters made up to take you from the mini pcd to the vw pcd. this will mean the wheel will be spaced out by around 20mm each side though.

you'd even struggle to get adapters made as the mini uses studs and nuts rather than bolts that thread into the flange. so i cant see how an adapter could work...

as for how and where to get them done, you'd need to find a local machine shop. what they would probably do is enlarge the holes in the wheels and press fit blank sleeves into the wheels, much like the cosmics are.
then re drill the holes in the blanks at 4inch. but im not a machinist so i dont know for sure. it is some precision stuff and dont expect it to be cheap. id imagine most machinists would charge around £40-£50 an hour. and id guess theres a good couple of hours a wheel there.

[craig 1010cc]

Custom PCD adapters would work, would need the studs cutting down, would be at least 20mm thick (prob 30) and would cost around £2-300 for the set. (watson do this for the rears but they are massive)

Next option is changing the PCD on teh drive flanges. Should be easy enough for most machine shops and should be around £100 + new studs (but if you want to add spacers to fit them anyway, you'll need loner studs)

3rd option is to get the wheels redrilled. Either by welding and redrilling or machining new inserts. Would expect £50 a wheel.

1st 2 options give you access to a wide range of wheels later on if you fancy a change (and if you wanted to go back to mini rims it would be easy enough to seel the modified items on), 3rd option would make the rims suitable for any mini, but a limited market for them.