Removing front subframe tower bolt
#1
Posted 02 March 2006 - 03:46 AM
I have a 1 5/16 socket, an extension bar, and a 1 foot right-angle handle thing (technical term unknown ) to apply twisting forces.
But no matter how hard I pull, I can't get the bolt undone, and the handle thing, being one-sided, puts a lot of strain and bending on the socket. I suspect the bolt has rusted into the subframe?
Should I be using a T bar instead, to get a more even force? Is it usually difficult to undo thse bolts? I've tried hitting the top of the bolt really hard to loosen it - is there anything else I can do?
#2
Posted 02 March 2006 - 06:51 AM
I assume that the 1 foot right-angle thing is a ratchet. Better in this case to use a T-bar with an extention on. I've got a piece of very thick wall tube as an extention.
If you have a friendly garage then they might undo it for you then just nip it up to get you home, can't imagine anyone would charge you for that.
Wil
#3
Posted 02 March 2006 - 11:06 AM
#4
Posted 02 March 2006 - 11:43 AM
I'm wary of putting too much force on it in case I shear off the tower bolt. Then I really would be in the poo, because I am not up to the job of getting the subframe out.
Am I likely to shear off the tower bolt, or are they really tough?
#5
Posted 02 March 2006 - 11:52 AM
My advice would be to extend your breaker bar, I needed an 18" long one to get mine undone. You already seem aware of the possibility of damaging your tools, so be careful of cracking the outer wall of the socket, particularly if it is of the 'multi-hex' design. If possible try to get hold of an impact socket, these have a hexagonal design, and much thicker walls, so the possibility of cracking is much less. Similarly the chances of slipping is reduced, so rounding off the head of the bolt isn't so much of an issue.
Also, for reference, try to avoid using a ratchet to undo tight nuts/bolts (I know Minilady isn't, but some people do!). A ratchet is a convenience tool, designed to speed up the removal of nuts, not as a tool to take serious abuse. Inside the head of the ratchet are small pawls and ring gear, and big forces through there can sometimes result in them breaking, usually rather violently - with the result of your knuckles/elbow/head/shoulder/whatever suddenly accelerating towards the nearest solid object - usually something sharp and steel - which is pretty painful!! So when undoing tight fittings, try to use a breaker bar with a tubular extension if necessary, its much safer, and means your ratchet lasts much longer!
#6
Posted 02 March 2006 - 12:46 PM
[attachment=13195:attachment]yes, you need something longer to get the leverage. I use a torque wrench to undo these little beauties.
And that's just completely fubar'd the calibration of your torque wrench...
As Mini84 has referred to, ratchets and torque wrenches are delicate pieces of equipment, and should only be used for one purpose...the one they were designed for..
Get a Breaker Bar, or T bar with extension, for undoing bolts which are tight, obviously avoid using them for doing things up, as that's what the torque wrench is for
#7
Posted 02 March 2006 - 12:59 PM
What's a "breaker bar"? Is is T shaped or L shaped?
I got my 1 5/16 socket from DSN classics. It's a chunky, black, mean-looking beastie, and I'm pretty sure it was hexagonal impact grade. I've broken several of my multi-hex sockets on this mini (wow, I must be strong ), getting seat belt bolts out for instance, so I would only buy impact grade sockets from now on.
#8
Posted 02 March 2006 - 01:23 PM
Also with sockets and minis, first use imperial and not metric, and then when you start use what you can get hold of, but as you break bits, replace them with reputable tools, Snap-on, facom, britool, and the likes... Halfords proffesional tools are pretty good too.
#9
Posted 02 March 2006 - 04:09 PM
#10
Posted 02 March 2006 - 04:16 PM
#11
Posted 18 August 2013 - 11:43 AM
does anyone know the size of the tower bolt head? Im guessing you can use a 1 5/16 socket from what I have read above? just double checking.. cheers
#12
Posted 18 August 2013 - 11:53 AM
1" 5/16
remember to NEVER use a torque wrench to undo things
Torque top bolts up to 50lbs, dont overtighten
#13
Posted 18 August 2013 - 12:35 PM
cheers :)
#14
Posted 18 August 2013 - 01:04 PM
I put a load of WD40 on it first, try and make it penetrate under the bolt head, don't just spray it on to as that will do nothing.
Edit: just realised this thread is from 2006. Ignore my comment.
Edited by HarrysMini, 18 August 2013 - 01:05 PM.
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