20 replies to this topic

[RustyFuknut]

Is this because the rear brakes are drums? bet you can have some fun with that

Tom

[Steve@RetroDash]

do you mean the back end wants to overtake the front end?

[Purple Tom]

the 'braking into corners' bit scares me somewhat!

The best way to corner really is slow in fast out - i.e slow down before the corner to the right speed to take the corner, select the correct gear, turn into the corner and apply power gently to get the outer wheels gripping, and apply more power as you apex and approach the exit. You can apply this principle to every corner on every road, and don't be afraid to use the full width of your side of the road (even the whole road if its 100% safe to do so ).

The sliding is more than likely understeer or the fact its a bit slippy out at the moment. Could also be a combination of low/high tyre pressures and worn suspension components too.

But what exact sort of slide is it? Whatever kind it is I suggest avoiding braking while cornering, or eventually you'll end up going backwards into a tree. Sounds harsh, but I've seen it happen in front of my very eyes!

(oh, and very unlikely to be anything to do with the brakes! )

[Steve@RetroDash]

could be your drums are mal adjusted, and yes braking and cornering at the same time is really silly. it will unbalance the car

ps try doing this www.iam.org.uk

not taking the mick just a bit of info for you

[MaryQuant88]

I had this problem before, when my first car was on its last legs.
It was happening to me because I had no pads left on the front so the brakes where much better on the back was intresting though

I suggest avoiding braking while cornering, or eventually you'll end up going backwards into a tree. Sounds harsh, but I've seen it happen in front of my very eyes!

What about left foot brakeing?

[Purple Tom]

What about left foot brakeing?

Indeed, left foot braking is a recognised technique, however it is a skill that doesn't come easily, and takes a lot of practice to perfect. I don't believe its appropriate to suggest left foot braking to Rustyfuknut (who if I remember rightly hasn't long passed his test), as I believe the possibile consequences could be severe.

[Steve@RetroDash]

I had this problem before, when my first car was on its last legs.
It was happening to me because I had no pads left on the front so the brakes where much better on the back was intresting though


What about left foot brakeing?

you should not be left foot braking on the roads. it is a racing technique that requires experience and skill

i'm not meaning to sound rude so i hope i dont *

[binge]

When you say its sliding?

Is the rear end jumping around, trying to overtake the front.

or

Is the rear end actually skiding?


I had a problem a while back where my mini was sliding and oversteering alot.

Turned out That After a put hi-lows on it, Changed to Adjusta Spax shocks and fitted yoka A539s at 28psi, The car handled like it was on Rails!


Remember a mate of mine once cut off his front brake lines and clamped them up, So He only had rear brakes.
That was amazingly fun!
it was an auto too, so no stalling either!

[Dev]

a) dont brake into corners
B) you are in a mini, you dont need to brake for corners
c) change your suspension and tyres and you'll be laughing.

Dev

[RustyFuknut]

I dont brake into corners in a car, save it for the bike

thanks for the info lads. i was thinking more along the lines of emergency braking. if theres something on the corner theres not much use if your car isnt able to brake is there?

as for advanced driving, already hold my advanced motorcycling cert and cant be arsed with it all over again hehe.

drum brakes do tend to be sharper though so I would think its just normal.

Tom

[Sprocket]

Brake before not during the corner.

Braking during induces oversteer.

In an emergency youll just have to be care full but unless the car is equiped with ABS it may well over stear. This has nothing to do with there being drum brakes on the back either, but then you should't be going round the corner that fast that you cant stop safely any way, the public road is not a race track.

I dont brake into corners in a car, save it for the bike

Tom

Thats a bit of a contradiction to the title of this topic, Not being funny but i am a little confused now what you are trying to say

[RustyFuknut]

an emergency stop is taught because even at the correct speed you will come across hazards that need to be avoided but I know what you mean.

I just wanted to know if this was happening because of a fault in my car or just because cars dont like braking into corners. I dont like having things wrong with my car hehe.

Thanks for the reply.

Tom

[AlexM]

I am planning to do the advanced driving test

25% off insurance!!!!!

[pikey7]

I just wanted to know if this was happening because of a fault in my car or just because cars dont like braking into corners. I dont like having things wrong with my car hehe.

If WHAT is happenning? it slides. yes. but what slides? how does it slide? does it only do it braking?

If only under braking then your rear drums are badly adjusted or badly worn, or that the brake regulator has had it.

If all the time (i'e roll through a corner and it wants to break away), then either your tyre pressures are wrong, or something is loose/worn/broken in the suspension.

[RustyFuknut]

aye its just during braking, and only when on a corner.

I cant see how it would be possible to get perfectly even braking if the front are hydraulic and the rears are drum though? drums arent progressive at all.

Tom