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#16 Leonard

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Posted 05 March 2006 - 04:00 PM

I cant see how it would be possible to get perfectly even braking if the front are hydraulic and the rears are drum though? drums arent progressive at all.

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Hello rustyfuknut. drums are progressive, and early minis had them front and rear. They are hydraulic, its just the handbrake thats cable opereated. If your saying the back slide out when you brake on corners, this is normal on hard corners and hard braking. its because the weight of the car sifts towards the front when you brake, so the back has less weight on it and less grip because of this.

#17 pikey7

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Posted 05 March 2006 - 07:13 PM

Of course drums are progressive. Depending on how far you press the pedal depends on how much fluid is passed to the rear lines and to the hydraulic cylinder. For instance, if you press say one inch, the corresponding fluid volume is moved to the rearcylinders and they are lushed out say 5mm. Push twice as far on the pedal, and the cylinder moves twice as far.

What the regulator does is to distribute the fluid. THe front brakes will tend to brake more, so the regulator allows (for instance) 5mm of movement to the front, and 3mm to the back. If your regulator is knackered, then you'll probably get too much fluid to the rear, and the rear will effectively overbrake making the rear end lock earlier on the pedal, and the back end feels all loose.

#18 Sprocket

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Posted 05 March 2006 - 10:27 PM

I,ll put money on a combination of wrong tyre pressure, aged tyres and type of tyre

#19 Papa Lazaroo

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Posted 06 March 2006 - 11:33 AM

You can apply this principle to every corner on every road, and don't be afraid to use the full width of your side of the road (even the whole road if its 100% safe to do so :-).



There is a big difference between driving fast and driving fast safely.

You should not apex on public roads, even within your own lane, unless you have complete visibility through and out of the bend.

Safe and fast road positioning on roads is completely different from the track. On roads, when entering a right handed bend you should keep the car as far to the left, for the duration, so that you have maximum visibility for hazards through the bend and beyond. Likewise for lefthanders you should position the car as far to the right (within your lane) as possible for the same reasons.

This is a technique employed by all of the emergency services and although not as quick as apexing ensures that you minimize the risks when cornering quickly on public roads.

Hereith ends the lesson........ ;)

#20 RustyFuknut

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Posted 06 March 2006 - 11:42 AM

thats how I drive. I apex as soon as I can see through the corner. and if visibility is clear all the way round i use both sides of the road.

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#21 Wiggy

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Posted 06 March 2006 - 04:42 PM

I used to have a similar problem. Came down to rubbish Dunlop tyres on the back. Switched to some Yokohama A539s and it's much much better.

Just gotta get rid of those Potenzas on the front. They're too harda compound.




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