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[adampat84]

So, does it have the Mk1 rear light mouldings or Mk3/4 ones? That's the easy bit - I was reading a thread on here about converting a Mk3 shell to a Mk1 & the changes are by no means easy. Rear window is smaller, doors & jambs are a whole different shape.

 

I had an easier job of converting mine back to a Mk1 Mini Minor SD (sorta) as the previous owner (read idiot) had converted a '66 car to look like a Mk4 including chopping the rear light mouldings out

Still has the mk3 lights.. so will need adaptors welding in..

 

Door posts with external hinges (needs new doors anyway!) etc. Isn't going to happen immediately but am planning on keeping the car so will be a long term thing!

[MINI MAD RKH]

 

 

Back in the 1970's we often updated our MK1 Mini's by chopping out the rear light apertures to fit Mk2/3 rear lights......there was a guide in Triple C magazine on how to do it!

 

 

Yeah, I seem to remember that ;) there's a guide in the Vizard book IIRC too, it's sacrilege I say!!!

 

This was 1989 & he was just a boy racer who wanted a newer mini but his dad was into the classics so he kept all of the original bits safe

[MINI MAD RKH]

Adam: I don't know your level of skill with a grinder/welder or the size of your wallet, but have u seen the thread I mean??, the work looks daunting to say the least. May be worth saving up instead for one of the BMH shells that Mab mentioned

 

How much is a new Mk4/5? shell these days??

Edited by MINI MAD RKH, 29 July 2013 - 12:14 PM.

[adampat84]

Adam: I don't know your level of skill with a grinder/welder or the size of your wallet, but have u seen the thread I mean??, the work looks daunting to say the least. May be worth saving up instead for one of the BMH shells that Mab mentioned

 

How much is a new Mk4/5? shell these days??

May be an idea but arn't they like £6000 nowadays?

[Bungle]

Another shell related question. I have almost finished with my donor car and rather than 'scrap it' I was going to sell it as a rolling shell with no id, just parts. I have taken all the bits I need but I have not touched the running gear and subby's which are in very good condition including the full 1275GT front setup with denovos. Can I sell this? I obviously have ID which I am using on my new car so the car would not have a V%, guess I shouldn't call it a car. It is completely unrestortable but does have some very useful parts left on it for someone.

 

the real answer is you must sell the donor with the V5 it came with

 

the shell you used to build the new car would of had an identity of it's own and you should use that v5 on the new car

 

if the replacement shell was brand new never used from BMH then you can use the V5 from the donor, the DVLA will advise you what should happen to the old shell

 

 

in the real world a 80's clubby shell is the same as a 80's clubby shell and as long as you don't tell the world what you are up to on the internet who is to know

[Bungle]

I have this issue to a point with my latest mini.. it come with a 1966 on a "D", though It was reshelled in the 80's when this was not such a contentious issue!

 

it has the original VIN, logbook and engine and that is about it.

 

I don't like the fact that it is a MK1 in a MK3/4 suit but then plan is to restore ans many original features as possible though this will take time..

 

as this was done before the 8 points system came it this is ok , although it will effect the cars value

[Jase]

 

Another shell related question. I have almost finished with my donor car and rather than 'scrap it' I was going to sell it as a rolling shell with no id, just parts. I have taken all the bits I need but I have not touched the running gear and subby's which are in very good condition including the full 1275GT front setup with denovos. Can I sell this? I obviously have ID which I am using on my new car so the car would not have a V%, guess I shouldn't call it a car. It is completely unrestortable but does have some very useful parts left on it for someone.

 

the real answer is you must sell the donor with the V5 it came with

 

the shell you used to build the new car would of had an identity of it's own and you should use that v5 on the new car

 

if the replacement shell was brand new never used from BMH then you can use the V5 from the donor, the DVLA will advise you what should happen to the old shell

 

 

in the real world a 80's clubby shell is the same as a 80's clubby shell and as long as you don't tell the world what you are up to on the internet who is to know

 

 

 

Yes it is a new BMH shell, so I guess I'll contact the DVLA unless anyone else can advise?

[JimminyBob]

 

 

Another shell related question. I have almost finished with my donor car and rather than 'scrap it' I was going to sell it as a rolling shell with no id, just parts. I have taken all the bits I need but I have not touched the running gear and subby's which are in very good condition including the full 1275GT front setup with denovos. Can I sell this? I obviously have ID which I am using on my new car so the car would not have a V%, guess I shouldn't call it a car. It is completely unrestortable but does have some very useful parts left on it for someone.

 

the real answer is you must sell the donor with the V5 it came with

 

the shell you used to build the new car would of had an identity of it's own and you should use that v5 on the new car

 

if the replacement shell was brand new never used from BMH then you can use the V5 from the donor, the DVLA will advise you what should happen to the old shell

 

 

in the real world a 80's clubby shell is the same as a 80's clubby shell and as long as you don't tell the world what you are up to on the internet who is to know

 

 

 

Yes it is a new BMH shell, so I guess I'll contact the DVLA unless anyone else can advise?

 

 

I'd say it's fine to sell the rolling shell without an ID. You haven't stolen the car so it's not necessarily dodgy. Better than just scrapping it, someone can make use of it.

[adampat84]

 

I have this issue to a point with my latest mini.. it come with a 1966 on a "D", though It was reshelled in the 80's when this was not such a contentious issue!

 

it has the original VIN, logbook and engine and that is about it.

 

I don't like the fact that it is a MK1 in a MK3/4 suit but then plan is to restore ans many original features as possible though this will take time..

 

as this was done before the 8 points system came it this is ok , although it will effect the cars value

 

 

Thanks for the information, i didn't know that.

[Bungle]

 

 

 

Another shell related question. I have almost finished with my donor car and rather than 'scrap it' I was going to sell it as a rolling shell with no id, just parts. I have taken all the bits I need but I have not touched the running gear and subby's which are in very good condition including the full 1275GT front setup with denovos. Can I sell this? I obviously have ID which I am using on my new car so the car would not have a V%, guess I shouldn't call it a car. It is completely unrestortable but does have some very useful parts left on it for someone.

 

the real answer is you must sell the donor with the V5 it came with

 

the shell you used to build the new car would of had an identity of it's own and you should use that v5 on the new car

 

if the replacement shell was brand new never used from BMH then you can use the V5 from the donor, the DVLA will advise you what should happen to the old shell

 

 

in the real world a 80's clubby shell is the same as a 80's clubby shell and as long as you don't tell the world what you are up to on the internet who is to know

 

 

 

Yes it is a new BMH shell, so I guess I'll contact the DVLA unless anyone else can advise?

 

 

I'd say it's fine to sell the rolling shell without an ID. You haven't stolen the car so it's not necessarily dodgy. Better than just scrapping it, someone can make use of it.

 

 

only problem i can see is they would have more of the car that the op if the identity of the 2 cars came into question

[Jase]

 

 

 

 

Another shell related question. I have almost finished with my donor car and rather than 'scrap it' I was going to sell it as a rolling shell with no id, just parts. I have taken all the bits I need but I have not touched the running gear and subby's which are in very good condition including the full 1275GT front setup with denovos. Can I sell this? I obviously have ID which I am using on my new car so the car would not have a V%, guess I shouldn't call it a car. It is completely unrestortable but does have some very useful parts left on it for someone.

 

the real answer is you must sell the donor with the V5 it came with

 

the shell you used to build the new car would of had an identity of it's own and you should use that v5 on the new car

 

if the replacement shell was brand new never used from BMH then you can use the V5 from the donor, the DVLA will advise you what should happen to the old shell

 

 

in the real world a 80's clubby shell is the same as a 80's clubby shell and as long as you don't tell the world what you are up to on the internet who is to know

 

 

 

Yes it is a new BMH shell, so I guess I'll contact the DVLA unless anyone else can advise?

 

 

I'd say it's fine to sell the rolling shell without an ID. You haven't stolen the car so it's not necessarily dodgy. Better than just scrapping it, someone can make use of it.

 

 

only problem i can see is they would have more of the car that the op if the identity of the 2 cars came into question

 

 

 

I agree, although the bodyshell cannot be saved and I have used most of the interior including instrumentation etc. I'm selling the engine and gearbox separately. I just know the rest of it could be used by someone else. My other option was just to hire a skip and cut it up, doesn't seem right

[mab01uk]

I agree, although the bodyshell cannot be saved and I have used most of the interior including instrumentation etc. I'm selling the engine and gearbox separately. I just know the rest of it could be used by someone else. My other option was just to hire a skip and cut it up, doesn't seem right

 

 

Read this link below, sign the petition and then let someone use your spare bodyshell to keep another Mini on the road......don't scrap or cut it up !!

 

Classics Monthly wants to see a change in the law to reflect the changing perception of what a classic car is and the desire of enthusiasts to preserve them responsibly, safely and legally.

http://www.gopetitio...tion/42909.html

 

Reshell or Die Petition:

http://www.classicsm...reshell-or-die/

Edited by mab01uk, 02 August 2013 - 06:03 PM.

[Guess-Works.com]

 

I agree, although the bodyshell cannot be saved and I have used most of the interior including instrumentation etc. I'm selling the engine and gearbox separately. I just know the rest of it could be used by someone else. My other option was just to hire a skip and cut it up, doesn't seem right

 

 

Read this link below, sign the petition and then let someone use your spare bodyshell to keep another Mini on the road......don't scrap or cut it up !!

 

Classics Monthly wants to see a change in the law to reflect the changing perception of what a classic car is and the desire of enthusiasts to preserve them responsibly, safely and legally.

http://www.gopetitio...tion/42909.html

 

Reshell or Die Petition:

http://www.classicsm...reshell-or-die/

 

 

 

I can sympathise with the feeling in the above links, however, notice they don't mention MG's, E types or Mini's... all of which you can buy a new shell for, if there was a demand for new shells for other vehicles, then I suspect companies would start producing them...

[mab01uk]

Not sure about the E-Type bodyshell but most of the tooling for the MGB and Mini was passed to Heritage at the end of their production runs, rather than just scrapped. John Yea head of BMH has said BMW put a lot of effort into facilitating the move of all the Classic Mini tooling to BMH from Longbridge back in 2000, so permitting the continued supply of the later bodyshells and genuine replacement body panels and subframes. The tooling also had to be adapted for low volume hand building of shells at BMH in batches and on much smaller presses, etc.

I doubt complete new shells could be produced economically for any other classic vehicle where the original very expensive production tooling has already been scrapped due to cost and insufficient volumes. The long wait for the launch of a look-a-like Mk1 Mini bodyshell demonstrates the difficulty, even for BMH when producing something quite similar based on the Mk3 onwards Mini shells.

Edited by mab01uk, 02 August 2013 - 10:47 PM.