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[Paintman]

Some of you may or may not now that come January 2007 all solvent based paints used in car body repair industry are to be banned, thanks to our government and the EU.

As a bodyshop owner I attended a local seminar last week with one of my fellow bodyshop owners, and things are going to get really tuff and expensive for some small bodyshops.

My advice to all of you DIY people that paint at home is to get your cars painted this year because after January you’ll have to have a licence to buy your paint.

[syholl]

Thats really bad news, i do quite a bit of spraying now. I will be stocking up on a couple of tins this year i think...

What does a license entail then, do they come and inspect the premises...?

[THedooBZ]

goddamn i hate the government, they always come up with stupid new rules!!!!!
same here think ill be getting any paint i need.
would that mean that the likes of halfords would not be able to mix paint for you without this license???

[pikey7]

Thank god I started the project this year!

Good luck with your business and all this pampering to ze Geermans.

[Paintman]

Yep they come and inspect your premises and basically make sure that your booth, mixing room and paint waste managements are all up to their standards.

I’m not to sure about halfords having a licence? Never bought any paint from halfords lol.

Basically the licence for bodyshops that buy paint for professional use, this will also affect private customers that buy paint from a paint supplier.

Nothing was mentioned about celly or acrylics, not a lot of bodyshops uses these so no need to bring it up at the time, but I will mention it at the next seminar I go to.

[Lomcevac]

Hi Paintman

Thanks very much for the heads-up.

When you say that solvent based paints are to be banned, does that only leave you pros with water based products?

What then do you actually need a licence for if the harmful products are banned anyway?

Regards

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[Paintman]

Hi Paintman

Thanks very much for the heads-up.

When you say that solvent based paints are to be banned, does that only leave you pros with water based products?

What then do you actually need a licence for if the harmful products are banned anyway?

Regards

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From what I can gather we need the licence as proof that we are who we say we are, before any paint supplier will supply paint to us, a professional bodyshop that will dispose of any paint products safely. We still have to have papers for the disposal of all paint products. This shows heath and safety and the environmental office that we dispose of our waste in the correct manner and don’t just throw it down drains.

The only solvent that we can use is the lacquer which has a very low VOC.

Basecoat and primers all have to be water based, “solid colours” (colours that do not need lacquer) will no longer be available; these will have to be base coated and then lacquered.

[Jammy]

From what I understand this is an environmental issue?

[Lomcevac]

Oh dear oh very dear.

Right I'm off to Wessex Autocolours to buy a job lot of island blue and OEW.
Come on you-lot lets get panic buying.

[Woody]

I am just waiting for the finance to be sorted out for my new booth with air blowers , my premises are allready iinspected by the enviromental gestapo (every drop of old thinners must be accounted for , thank you safety clean!)
but from what i can work out , you can register as a car restorer and carry on using solvent based paint on a restricted (reduced)basis BUT i have been told that it wont be viable for the paint companies to produce it any more , so even if you can find it it will be horrribly expensive

[Paintman]

Hi Woody, long time no speak?

Standox, ICI etc are still going to make 2K no matter what. The legislation is only for countries that are in the EU.

I don’t think the government has heard of the BLACK MARKET yet?????

Just had a smoke test done on my booth – 4mins to totally empty it well happy

[minidaves]

interesting because from what i understand water base is for base coats only, low voc primer and lov voc laquers will be used and solid colour will be low voc high solid. so basically perals and alluminims are the ones that are going to be water base, all all quick drying stuff (ie high voc) will no longer be advailable. You will need a lience for 1/2 ton useage but if under that ok and a waste thinners lience as well as paint lience thats it the way MY reps down here are speaking and the bodyshop mag states.

problem is most cars are base and clear

dave

[Paintman]

I’m only stating what my reps up here are saying to me, as well as the seminar that I went to.

Every bodyshop has to have a waste thinners licence, its got that bad around by me that heath and safety are going around the bodyshop that advertise in the yellows including me and asking to see paper work for waste thinners and general bodyshop waste. I was taking to one of my suppliers today and they have had a visit from H&S asking for names and addresses of all the bodyshops that they supply to.

I’ve not used a solid colour for years, I just find it too much of a problem when it comes to colour match’s. I’ve got an escort cosworth in at the moment which had a few repairs on both ¼’s mid way in. its just easier to base up and flick into the doors and lacquer though.

[minidaves]

solid colour is great on classic things you would not base and clear my 65 pickup for example. but yes agreed base is good for blow ins etc, i know about waste thinners, etc, we will have lots of paper work to deal with soon, so that we wont be able to earn any money.

baiscally High solid 2 k is staying and high voc stuff so base etc is off

dave

[jack_marshall]

Arnt commercials still going to be aloud to use solvent paints though?

Seems pointless to me as big vans and big lorries are going to use alot more paint than repairing a wing or 1/4 on a car is..?

Stupid government.