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[Mini-Mad-Craig]

Hi everyone,

Thought I'd start another topic on this since my last one a few years ago because I'm at a different phase of my life now and have actually seeked help and gone through therapy for it.

I am just looking for any advice on the best way to get prescribed meds for Anxiety based OCD. When you say 'OCD' I think a lot of people think that OCD means having to line up things on your table because you want them neat, or having a ridiculously clean car, which I think everybody shows traits of in some aspect of their life. Unfortunately some people like myself have a form of OCD which is extremely debilitating and effects almost every aspect of their lives. Not having done something to me feels like life and death to the people closest to me. I could list off a thousand examples of this but I dont think that's necessary. It's just like a devil inside your head that you can't explain, you have your normal side and then a side which is completely out of any control of your own, no matter how reassured you are, no matter how irrational the thought is, it still wins. Constantly counting, doubting, and generally making you feel like a terrible person for thinking the things you do, even if they're not your own thoughts.

I find the thing which scares me most is how utterly fixated and dependent I feel towards certain people. With my mind so fixed on protecting one person, I'm constantly imagining the scenario of them not being there anymore, constantly feeling that pain and despair genuinely convincing myself that the person is hurt or more common than not, dead. I have touched on Dependent Personality disorder with my therapist, and whilst we never got as far as diagnosing because I stopped the sessions, she seemed quite sure I had many traits of DPD too. It scares me that I feel unable to live my life without a certain person there to, constantly thinking of a life without the person I care about most, and knowing that so many people care for me, I mean the world to a lot of people, but knowing that this one person feels like the be all and end all is an utterly terrifying thing since life is such an uncertainty, and we all know that tomorrow could bring anything, it makes it hard to move on in my life as a person, to find work or education when I feel like the most important thing is this person being there, this one person being alive, being there to talk to... on this same planet, is enough of a reason, I have done enough and I need nothing more from life.

The main point of this topic was to try and find the best way to get prescribed medication for OCD, namely Prozac. I have gone through a course of Therapy which I felt was helping at first, but I guess it was just having somebody to explain my exact feelings to for a couple of weeks took away some of my guilt and put me at ease for a while. Eventually that grew old and I found myself attending the therapy sessions getting nothing from it, and knowing that my therapist could be spending that hour with somebody who was actually benefiting from it. They seemed hugely biased towards therapy, and medication was rarely mentioned, but from my experience of OCD, of which I have a good understand since suffering for so long, some people react great to treatment, and some dont. Some people spend 2 years having therapy and find it helps a little, and then start a course of medication and find 80% of their symptoms are gone within 2/3 months. I am currently in the middle of a break with my therapist after explaining to her how I feel, but really I just want to start medication, which she doesn't seem too keen on. Whilst I understand the complications, I still feel that it should be down to me to decide this, surely? if my case is bad enough, which from what I have seen, it definitely is, I should be able to say for myself that it's what I want to try. Whenever it's suggested to my therapist she almost instantly strays away and mentions something else.

Is there a way to do this through my GP? I assume they'd have to get evidence of my OCD which they could do through the therapist.

Also I'd like to hear any stories from other OCD sufferers, I know there are a few on the forum. Share what you like.

Thanks,
Craig ^^

And to make this worthwhile for those uninterested

Edited by Mini-Mad-Craig, 28 November 2012 - 02:04 AM.

[minimarco]

I thought this was going to end with "send this to 40 people or you'll have a life of bad sex"

[minimarco]

On a serious note, I have a friend who was on prozac for depression, long story short, she was feeling fine for most but boarderline suicidal at times, not to mention the lack of interest in sex. Talking about it now, she would tell you it did more harm than good.

Have you thought about medical marijuana?

[Globule]

It's no use going to the GP saying: I want Prozac, that is drug seeking and you'll get nowhere. Also, from what I have heard, Prozac is a very strong drug, why go straight for that when there are much milder alternatives? Would a mild anti-depressant not help in the slightest as they can be mildly sedative which could help? I know a few people who have been on them, the stronger stuff basically dulled them down and they hated it, but you never know, that may be your cure (as you are mad anyway, I've seen your posters remember!)

This really is something you should be talking to your GP about and if they say no, try a different one!

[SA MINI]

My partner had similar issues but has been dealing with them from regular counceling this year. There's been a great improvement it takes time but worth it. I also paid for her to go traveling so she could find herself again.

I've witnessed people on Prozac & in my opinion it's a last resort. They change your personality terribly to the point your not you anymore
It effects the people closet too you because it zombiefies you

[Mini-Mad-Craig]

Thanks for the replies guys. I dont really know what to do about it to be honest. I realise that with medication comes adverse effects and that sound's scary but I feel like eventually I'll end up the same through insanity anyway. I dont know how it's possible to live like this for the rest of my life, it effected me so much growing up and I just dont feel like I ever get to live life to the full without a worry or a doubt, constantly. Things an 18 year old shouldn't be worrying about at all are the things which occupy my 80% of my brain. I wish it was possible to show the despair which comes with OCD but you become an expert at hiding it eventually. I've just become somebody who unless you knew me well, you'd never know, and yet its just a consistent pain in my mind which never seems to go away.

I'm getting sick of losing sleep over it, I'm just getting utterly sick of it being there now. Given the choice of being born with a physical disability rather than this, I'm pretty sure I'd pick that. You can adapt to that, you can grow up and adapt to that, a mental illness grows and changes to pick at your most vulnerable points at every point in time, and its you that's creating this thing, so it knows exactly what to pick on.

Edited by Mini-Mad-Craig, 28 November 2012 - 03:04 PM.

[666junky]

Don't do it dude, Ive been on all sorts for around 10 years now, trying to come off them has been hell.. and I mean, end of the world and everyone is coming with me hell.

One type of meds turned me into a zombie, Id just sit and do nothing, no emotion or anything, made me really nasty. it almost cost me my relationship.. Another type stopped working within months and made me worse.

I've been off them for over 3 months now and I feel so much better. I have got myself a job, my artistic skills have returned and I feel.. well.. refreshed!

I know this goes against what alot of people say but I forced myself to be better if that makes sence.. None of this therapy (it made me worse as all it did was remind me of being ill) or reviews. I know it was dangerous not to be under any "care team" but it gave me a real kick to actually do something. Yeah i moped around some days but soon realised things would only improve if I made the effort.

I'm not saying this will work for you as I have a different condition but so far i am pleased with my progress :)

[OllieTheWelder]

I also have those scenarios of how bad it would be if a close family member or friend died and how I'd cope. I also think marijuana would be a good thing to try, these prescribed drugs that are so often given to people often lead to bad side effects. I also think maybe trying something like marijuana may help you not think about things that make you worry, however they may also make it worse. But thats entirely your decision and you should do your research first. Family members have told me that I show signs of OCD, the funny thing is my initials are OCD...

[666junky]

Mirtazapine makes you eat the earth too

[Carlos W]

The problem with cannabis, is it is being bred for a very high THC content. This can cause cannabis pscycosis which will make the issue worse.

You need cannabis which is high in CBD, however this may be very difficult to find

[OllieTheWelder]

The problem with cannabis, is it is being bred for a very high THC content. This can cause cannabis pscycosis which will make the issue worse.

You need cannabis which is high in CBD, however this may be very difficult to find

Seeds can be legally bought in the UK, however as soon as it is germinated it becomes illegal. However due to his circumstances I doubt it would be frowned upon by the police. It is however much better than buying it from dealers as you know exactly what it is and what's in it.

[firefox]

Craig have you had a look at OCD.uk give it a read and see if you can get any help from it, hope this helps bud

[firefox]

The problem with cannabis, is it is being bred for a very high THC content. This can cause cannabis pscycosis which will make the issue worse.

You need cannabis which is high in CBD, however this may be very difficult to find

Seeds can be legally bought in the UK, however as soon as it is germinated it becomes illegal. However due to his circumstances I doubt it would be frowned upon by the police. It is however much better than buying it from dealers as you know exactly what it is and what's in it.

Are you been serious, i agree with pick you own, but not grow your own, the slam of a jail door wont do him any good

[OllieTheWelder]

The problem with cannabis, is it is being bred for a very high THC content. This can cause cannabis pscycosis which will make the issue worse.

You need cannabis which is high in CBD, however this may be very difficult to find

Seeds can be legally bought in the UK, however as soon as it is germinated it becomes illegal. However due to his circumstances I doubt it would be frowned upon by the police. It is however much better than buying it from dealers as you know exactly what it is and what's in it.

Are you been serious, i agree with pick you own, but not grow your own, the slam of a jail door wont do him any good

I don't mean a nursery, just 1 or 2 plants. No one needs to know

[firefox]

The problem with cannabis, is it is being bred for a very high THC content. This can cause cannabis pscycosis which will make the issue worse.

You need cannabis which is high in CBD, however this may be very difficult to find

Seeds can be legally bought in the UK, however as soon as it is germinated it becomes illegal. However due to his circumstances I doubt it would be frowned upon by the police. It is however much better than buying it from dealers as you know exactly what it is and what's in it.

Are you been serious, i agree with pick you own, but not grow your own, the slam of a jail door wont do him any good

I don't mean a nursery, just 1 or 2 plants. No one needs to know

How many members are on here, and when the habit increases, so will the amount of plant pots