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[Carlos W]

I'm fully aware of the law on the owning of cannabis seeds, you can also legally buy the lights, fans, etc etc.

It needs to be a variety like Afgan which is high in CBD.

Also, the stuff grown tends to be harvested early giving a high THC content, then not dried properly.

If it is harvested later the THC content drops and CBD content rises.

Cultivation is an offence! Who knows how the Police will view it

[SA MINI]

Craig have you tried counseling before ?
There is specialists for this kind of thing you describe.
My parter basically said to me last year what you said in that last post. She's come extremely far since then & thinks totally different.
The closest person to you will help you too just by talking to them aswell

[minimarco]

Sorry Craig for turning this into a cannabis discussion, but I truly think if you can acquire some legally it would be a much better option than Prozac.

The problem with cannabis, is it is being bred for a very high THC content. This can cause cannabis pscycosis which will make the issue worse. (this can not be said in a factual manner, there have been conflicting studies on this (the pro cannabis psychosis group are usually mental health practitioners (taking away their business perhaps?). If the chances of developing psychosis is anything close to substantial at all, there would be a lot more psychiatric wards in the states. It is also something difficult to study as lab use and street use have different conditions.)

You need cannabis which is high in CBD, however this may be very difficult to find

I'm fully aware of the law on the owning of cannabis seeds, you can also legally buy the lights, fans, etc etc.

It needs to be a variety like Afgan which is high in CBD.

Also, the stuff grown tends to be harvested early giving a high THC content, then not dried properly.

If it is harvested later the THC content drops and CBD content rises.

Cultivation is an offence! Who knows how the Police will view it

I'm not so sure about the benefit of a higher CBD content in this case. THC is more helpful to those with psychological need like depression while CBD is more for pain relieve. You'll know if you smoked something with high CBD because you just feel numb and relaxed versus something high in THC which makes you feel comfortable with your thoughts and have a better mood, the signature "high". Having said that, they work in conjunction and you want both to be present; good stuff are bred for both.

I know it comes in pill form but I've personally never tried it, I doubt it'll be any good (or like the real thing). Maybe there is a way to obtain cannabis oil so you can bake some brownies with?

p.s.
My friend got off prozac by falling in love and having a child. Have you thought about adoption?

Edited by minimarco, 28 November 2012 - 05:56 PM.

[sonikk4]

People this is a public forum open to anyone to read and i mean anyone. Some suggestions on here would be better explained via email or pm rather than openly on here.

[Carlos W]

CBD can be good for anxiety!

What I'm saying is, generally cannabis grown is harvested very early giving it a very high THC content and very low CBD content.

[iMurray]

I'm gonna throw another option out there.purely because mostly I have to.


Have you considered church... Wonderful tints happen when you welcome the Lord.

Now I know some people aren't gonna agree with that at all. But don't worry, i've not picked up my Bible yet ;) I've had anxiety problems, although not as severe as yours, and they have been cured by the good God and his son. Again people may think of this as witch craft but I've seen terminally ill people healed with prayer...


Contact me if ya want. I'll pray for you tonight. :)







Now that wasn't so awkward was it?

[Alex_B]

+1 for the magical leaf

I dont smoke it never have, but I know someone who has always heard voices and has been in and out of mental care and that defo did more harm than good, he was pumped with horrible drugs that just made him quiet and when he came off them it ate his muscles and is now permanently physically disabled,

He still struggles with the voices but he has used marijuana which really helps quieten the voices.

I dont think you will find a magical cure that will "fix" you, but finding an outlet that allows you to forget or put those thoughts to the back of your mind, may be beneficial? I dont know what all your interests are but you can probably start a project in fixing "Dog"s car ;) and the cold weather will probably make you forget everything apart from "holy hell my fingers are falling off!"

Edited by Alex_B, 28 November 2012 - 06:42 PM.

[adam_93rio]

Craig I really admire you for being able to do this. Without you coming on here and putting it into words i probably would've never said anything. but, as you know, I have suffered with OCD my whole life since I could remember.
You know some of the dark times I've been through with it too, and you can certainly relate to it.
I'm starting cognitive behaviour therapy again, in fact my first session is tomorrow. This is about a year after I stopped seeing my last therapist.
I've been on fluoxetine since then too, and just because it isn't for everybody it seems to have a very negative response from people. The only way to know if it suits you is to try it at the end of the day. It is not as strong as it is made out to be, it will make you feel worse for a few weeks or months, you would have ups and downs, and I mean really down. We've had discussions through Facebook about where I was at times.
I've also been on propanalol which is a beta blocker, this really did start to work, however the side effects of it made my insomnia even worse and when I did evenrtually get half an hours sleep I would have massive anounts of hair on my pillow when I woke up so I decided to take myself off it.
When I was seeing my therapist last year I got to a similar point that you describe, because as much as I hate having OCD and struggling to keep calm and not snap at every moment, theres that compulsive side of it that makes you hate change. It came to a point where I was changing (admittedly for the better) but when I realised that this disorder has made me who I am in every way. And as much as I want rid of it, I couldn't do it.
You know how to contact me of you ever need to talk, people are more open to talk about other drugs on here but you know you can talk on Facebook messages about the good stuff ;)

Talk to me mate, there are people going through the same things as you. Although they are sometimes few and far between. But what you explained is basically how I would explain it if I could, I feel like I've become a master of disguising it as well, ive felt lonely my whole life because theres nobody I've had to talk to who could really understand what I go through without trying to relate to it. If you talk to the average person and say OCD they will tell you all the times they've organised pencils and eaten red smarties last, you know how frustrating that is. I have had fights and fallouts with friends and family members many times about it.

Anyway, I'm ranting and what I wrote about this stuff never makes sense so I will just say that what you have said is exactly how I have felt my whole life too. So talk to me mate, it helps us both when we have our little chats on Facebook.

[jb93]

I'm sorry I cannot offer any helpful advice Craigy, but I really hope you find something that works for you :)

[Globule]

If you can get legal cannabis then it's worth a try, but as before I think it is unlikely you will get it if you ask! Illegal I wouldn't advise, easy to get hooked and whatever the research says etc, I think it has a long term effect on personality. Considering that there is nothing wrong with you, it's not worth it (for the record, I am not "anti-drugs" or "pro-drugs").

It's one of them hard things, especially as no-one but you knows how bad you are, but I would advise seeing the GP and doing what they say (med wise if you get any) and sticking to the course to see if you get any progress. That way they will increase/side step into different areas to see results. Providing you have an understanding GP that is.

As Alex said, have you tried channeling the energy into something else, if so did you get any decent results?

I'm not against religion, i'm not for it either, but the belief that some people have does seem to provide dedication which could help, purely as that would be your focus.

[minimarco]

Maybe you can try meditation. I practice it often and it really calms me and helps with my thinking. My mom have psychological trauma (An accident brought back a well of haunted memories religion helped/tried to suppress) and it helped her a great deal after I introduced it to her.

I just sit and close my eyes and feel myself breathing. Feel the air enter from you nose and feel it fall into your lungs, don't think about anything else(that's the important bit). I do it twenty-thirty minutes a day. Took me a while of that to be able to fall into a space in myself where no thoughts were (maybe a year or two, and still I can't do it every time).

Of course, I can't imagine how you feel and if this would help, but maybe worth a try.

Edited by minimarco, 28 November 2012 - 10:08 PM.

[RawlinsGTR]

I've had a first hand view at how this can ruin someone's life. It's unfair to call it an 'illness', because it's more than that - it's a lifestyle.

It makes you think you're something you're not. It makes you think you're a problem to those around you. It distances you from the people you care about most, which furthers the pain it causes because more than anything, you don't want to feel alone.

I think those who have to suffer it, and hide it at the same time, are the bravest people of all. No one else can see how much it hurts, no one else can understand how it feels.

It causes debilitating anxiety, and a sense of loneliness to a disproportionate level. And you have to live with it for every second that you are awake, never properly getting it out of your mind.

I don't have OCD, and I feel lucky that I do not.

I just hope that one day it can be overcome, and I feel sure that it can.

Don't give up Craig, don't give up Adam. There will ALWAYS be someone you can talk to.

And on a lighter note, Craig, if you do decide to take up marijuana, let me know, I want to get high.

[minimarco]

if you do decide to take up marijuana, let me know, I want to get high.

I know what someone is getting in the mail from Canada for secret santa...

[adam_93rio]

Thankyou 'dog' your understanding of this means a lot, I've never heard (or read) someone without OCD explain it or understand it so well.

It really does mean the world

[AVV IT]

Firstly Fluoexetine (prozac) is not a strong anti depressant, it's an SSRI (selective serotonin re uptake inhibitor) and therefore one of the milder, or so called "entry level" anti depressants. Whether it is suitable for you is a discussion that you need to have with your GP, along with looking at the all other treatment options available to you. Even if your GP feels that you need to be referred to a specialist, it is likely to be your GP that actually prescribes you the medication, even if it is under the direction of a specialist.

Please do not be put off by other peoples accounts of how any drug has affected them though. Anti depressants in particular work by interfering with your neuro chemistry and as everyone's neuro chemistry is different, the side effects of interfering with it can vary massively from person to person. Besides the first 2-3 weeks is when most people suffer side the most significant effects, whilst their serotonin levels stabilise in response to the drug. If you are prescribed Fluoexetine, then it's very important to persist with taking the medication for at least a month, even though it will probably make you feel much worse before you feel any benefit. Unfortunately many patients stop taking anti depressants in the early weeks because of the side effects and never get to experience the benefits of them.

I really wouldn't recommend going down the cannabis route. Despite the somewhat controversial therapeutic benefits of cannabis, it's also well documented that long term use increases the risk of mental ill health and can compound existing mental ill health issues. It would probably be much wiser to exhaust everything modern medicine has to offer in terms of medication, counselling and behavioural therapies before resorting to self medicating with illicit substances and risking the complications of doing so.

So talk to your GP, it's what they are there for..... and if you feel that you can't talk to them, or that they are not very sympathetic to your problem, then change your GP to one that is, there are plenty of good one's out there.

Edited by AVV IT, 28 November 2012 - 11:16 PM.