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#31 Gremlin

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 02:00 PM

ha no-one realised that i was a joke, im not actually going to do, like you have all said, it wold be stupid, but actually the only problem is trying to get air to, it is safe in every other aspect of it

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 02:03 PM

No! It would be incredibly loud! Ever been in an engine dyno room? A possibility of fire, worse performance, a build up of fumes etc. It's called a firewall for a reason!

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 02:05 PM

no, i was joking, its an old mini and i thought evryone would take the joke


I can when it's a good one.

Just listen to the guys on here. They know what there on about. If you have no intension of listening the advice given to you then dont start a thread, you could be half way to installing your cabin air induction system by now.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 02:06 PM

ha no-one realised that i was a joke, im not actually going to do, like you have all said, it wold be stupid, but actually the only problem is trying to get air to, it is safe in every other aspect of it


Funny, didn't look like a joke earlier... looks more like trying to save face after people said you were wrong

I could be wrong of course

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 02:11 PM


ha no-one realised that i was a joke, im not actually going to do, like you have all said, it wold be stupid, but actually the only problem is trying to get air to, it is safe in every other aspect of it


Funny, didn't look like a joke earlier... looks more like trying to save face after people said you were wrong

I could be wrong of course

yeah, you are wrong

#36 MiniFTW

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 02:16 PM

ha no-one realised that i was a joke, im not actually going to do, like you have all said, it wold be stupid, but actually the only problem is trying to get air to, it is safe in every other aspect of it


HA that wah rate funneh ahh shag ROFL

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 02:17 PM

Cool.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 03:01 PM

Gremlin, people respond to questions like yours with the best intentions, using their experience, time and knowledge. All you have achieved is wasting everybodys time..........

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 03:05 PM

Gremlin, if you wondering what ChopperHarris is on about, ask a responsible adult.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 03:20 PM

even though I agree with most of what has been said and it’s probably not the best idea >_< , I would just like to add that a ram stack works by using the venturi effect to 'ram' more air into the carb by using the tapered part of the pipe and the rounded end is there to reduce the angel into the pipe as air doesn’t like sharp corners. Very little additional air flow is due to the car moving forward and being forced worn the throat of the carb, prime example is the mini where the carb is at the back of the engine and therefore has very little air flowing directly at it, however there are still gains to be had from using the ram stack even though its facing backwards. if that makes any sense, I also like to add that having a ram stack under the bonnet without a air filter will mean you will need a engine re-boar in about 10,000 mile due to all the crud going through the engine. so if I was going for a ram stack I would get one of them K&N filters with the built in ram stacks.


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Posted 27 January 2013 - 03:31 PM

I'm not sure on whether it is legal or not. It could cause controversy at an MOT, my initial guess would be yes providing its safe. However my question is why would you want to. Not only is the air inside the cabin warm so less dense, but you are also breathing inside the cabin so less oxygen is available for the engine to combust. The reason people run ram air setups from the engine bay is because air is physically forced down the pipe into the carb. If you run a setup from in the cabin, you are just relying on the engines breathing capability to draw air from in the cabin, which in effect you achieve with a standard air filter setup. You also mentioned turbulance. In effect you do want some turbulance and swirl effect in order to aid atomisation of the fuel as it enters the inlet and cylinders. No offence but I cannot see your setup giving any advantage over a standard air filter setup.

Also guys, I don't know what backfires you have seen, but last time I checked the flame out the top of the carb on a back fire coulden't possibly travel down a long tube and set fire to your interior haha!

That signature box had me going then. i was like who'`s moving my mouse. i was about to punch the misses.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 05:05 PM

I'd just like to add that the air in the cabin is probably a lot more dirty than the outside air. Humans and there clothing shed milloions of particles of skin and fibre every second, not to mention all the acumulated particles that are already in the car.

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 05:13 PM

AHHH MY IDEA IS FAILING!

(say I was joking quick)

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 05:29 PM

i like the idea of making it out of a computer table leg,

would of been nice and chunky, plus the tables ive seen have either box section legs on them or tiny metal tubes.

would of been interesting

ahahahaha

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Posted 27 January 2013 - 06:13 PM

Although it is a silly idea for lots of the reasons mentioned, at least you're thinking outside the box, to coin a phrase.

How about thinking of other parts of the car that has similar air but are outside of the driving cabin, the boot for example. However, after all the work of doing such a think I suspect that there would be no gains. And even if there were it'd be impossible to quantify on a rolling road as all the air is static.

Finally, you seem to have invented a problem in the first place for your solution. No car I know of has ever run out of air by having the air intake under the bonnet. Actually, you may find the air in the bonnet to be a slightly higher pressure than ambiant at speed.




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