Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

Punch Or Drill


  • Please log in to reply
24 replies to this topic

Poll: punch or drill (5 member(s) have cast votes)

when fitting new panels do you punch or drill holes in them for welding

  1. sheet metal punch (3 votes [60.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 60.00%

  2. drill (2 votes [40.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 40.00%

Vote Guests cannot vote

#1 scaffers

scaffers

    Speeding Along Now

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 476 posts
  • Location: London

Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:16 PM

i will be fitting new panels, if my arm ever recovers..................

im toying with the idea of buying a sheet metal punch to punch the panels ready for welding.

my thinking is, it has to be faster and more controlled than drilling



what do you think?



scaff

#2 Ethel

Ethel

    ..is NOT a girl!

  • TMF Team
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 25,943 posts
  • Local Club: none

Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:23 PM

http://www.machinema...with-hole-punch, great for panel edges. A spot weld drill for elsewhere & a deburrer if needed.

#3 sonikk4

sonikk4

    Twisted Paint Polisher!!!

  • Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 16,037 posts
  • Name: Neil
  • Location: Oxfordshire

Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:25 PM

The hole punch normally punches holes 5/32 in size. This size i find fills with weld too quickly to make a decent contact point.

I drill 1/4" holes for all of my plug welding to ensure i get a decent weld.

#4 sonikk4

sonikk4

    Twisted Paint Polisher!!!

  • Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 16,037 posts
  • Name: Neil
  • Location: Oxfordshire

Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:27 PM

http://www.machinema...with-hole-punch, great for panel edges. A spot weld drill for elsewhere & a deburrer if needed.


I have this very tool. the joggler part is very good and i use for quite a few things. The hole punch works don't get me wrong and i did use it quite a bit but the plug welds could be a bit hit and miss. Personal preference ?? yes but time and experience tells.

#5 scaffers

scaffers

    Speeding Along Now

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 476 posts
  • Location: London

Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:49 PM

what size is the hole on the joggler?

is it about 5-6mm



.

#6 Ethel

Ethel

    ..is NOT a girl!

  • TMF Team
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 25,943 posts
  • Local Club: none

Posted 17 February 2013 - 01:53 PM

smaller, about 4mm?

#7 scaffers

scaffers

    Speeding Along Now

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 476 posts
  • Location: London

Posted 17 February 2013 - 02:21 PM

so not ideal for a weld then

#8 Artful Dodger

Artful Dodger

    " I AM THE SPECIAL ONE"

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,435 posts
  • Local Club: aint no body got time fo dat

Posted 17 February 2013 - 02:53 PM

we use that joggler / punch literally on every body work job. couldnt work without it. such a good tool. so much easier than drilling and we find the holes are a perfect size for plug welding. can even make them look exactly like spot welds.

have had the same one about 15 years now, not worn or broken. proper job. can see use and results on my 1980 mini miglia project.

#9 sonikk4

sonikk4

    Twisted Paint Polisher!!!

  • Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 16,037 posts
  • Name: Neil
  • Location: Oxfordshire

Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:28 PM

I think with that size of hole a fairly high power setting is really needed. It is a pain drilling loads of holes i have to admit but then i don't do this for any sort of living (working on cars) so each to there own. It will be handy for flanges ie sills, door steps etc but the one thing i found with mine it leaves a raised edge so you really need to go along with a block and hammer to flatten them before welding.

Plus the springs on mine are shot so i will stick with my drills.

#10 Shifty

Shifty

    Sponsored by Fosters (tm)

  • Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 13,142 posts
  • Name: Sean
  • Location: Shropshire(sunny)
  • Local Club: TMF

Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:39 PM

Theres also a pneumatic version of that tool, I've got it and its brilliant. Much faster and easier than the hand one.

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item484500bac3

#11 Noah

Noah

    Up Into Fourth

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,136 posts
  • Location: NE London/Essex
  • Local Club: Essex Mini Club

Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:41 PM

I've not done alot of welding in my time, but the times I have at college I've only used a punch to create the perfect situation for a Plug weld.

I would've been there all day if I'd drilled it.

#12 Artful Dodger

Artful Dodger

    " I AM THE SPECIAL ONE"

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,435 posts
  • Local Club: aint no body got time fo dat

Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:44 PM

Theres also a pneumatic version of that tool, I've got it and its brilliant. Much faster and easier than the hand one.

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item484500bac3


thats very cool, but i bet after a year or two of being used often, mostly every week, it would break. manual lives on!!

#13 Shifty

Shifty

    Sponsored by Fosters (tm)

  • Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 13,142 posts
  • Name: Sean
  • Location: Shropshire(sunny)
  • Local Club: TMF

Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:47 PM


Theres also a pneumatic version of that tool, I've got it and its brilliant. Much faster and easier than the hand one.

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item484500bac3


thats very cool, but i bet after a year or two of being used often, mostly every week, it would break. manual lives on!!


Probably, mine doesn't get used that much so its fine for me. The joddler is a life saver, when I do 1/2 floors I like to joddle the panel along the length of the car and then weld top and bottom for strength. Doing it by hand takes ages, the air one makes it easy.

#14 scaffers

scaffers

    Speeding Along Now

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 476 posts
  • Location: London

Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:48 PM

Theres also a pneumatic version of that tool, I've got it and its brilliant. Much faster and easier than the hand one.

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item484500bac3


oohh

that looks good,

i have a compressor etc,




scaff

#15 Artful Dodger

Artful Dodger

    " I AM THE SPECIAL ONE"

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,435 posts
  • Local Club: aint no body got time fo dat

Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:50 PM



Theres also a pneumatic version of that tool, I've got it and its brilliant. Much faster and easier than the hand one.

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item484500bac3


thats very cool, but i bet after a year or two of being used often, mostly every week, it would break. manual lives on!!


Probably, mine doesn't get used that much so its fine for me. The joddler is a life saver, when I do 1/2 floors I like to joddle the panel along the length of the car and then weld top and bottom for strength. Doing it by hand takes ages, the air one makes it easy.


i bet it does!! il be eating my words when i have to manually do the length of a floor! ;)




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users