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#1 MINI MAD RKH

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 01:18 PM

as title

 

they're 13 x 6.5J & I don't know the offset

 

they don't appear to have much of a dish

 

 

failing that info, what are the usual offsets used for 13 x 6.5'' Mini wheels??

 

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 01:23 PM

They're a different PDC to a Mini so wont fit on the studs. 

 

The Fiesta has a 4x108MM pattern but a Mini is 4x4 inches. 



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Posted 06 August 2013 - 01:32 PM

Great, thanks for the speedy reply :D what wheel is that, in yr avatar?

 

 

& GRRRRRRGH that they won't fit :lol:


Edited by MINI MAD RKH, 06 August 2013 - 01:33 PM.


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 01:44 PM

-7 is the usual offset for a wide 13, you could make them fit with a little work.

 

Redrilling the wheels, you could redrill the hubs also, but I wouldn't want to do this with the way the Mini suspension and hub works.  You could also see what the difference is between Xr2 rear drums and hubs, and see how easy they will be to change, that won't be a lot of work. The fronts would be slightly harder, but you could get some 101.6mm to 108mm adapters made up, but they'd stick out quite far then depending on offset. 

 

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Edited by Mini-Mad-Craig, 06 August 2013 - 01:45 PM.


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 02:14 PM

-7 is the usual offset for a wide 13, you could make them fit with a little work.

 

Redrilling the wheels, you could redrill the hubs also, but I wouldn't want to do this with the way the Mini suspension and hub works.  You could also see what the difference is between Xr2 rear drums and hubs, and see how easy they will be to change, that won't be a lot of work. The fronts would be slightly harder, but you could get some 101.6mm to 108mm adapters made up, but they'd stick out quite far then depending on offset. 

 

If you want them enough...

 

you can make it happen 

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 04:30 PM

Yeah, I was thinking that as the difference is only about 4mm

 

so, the companies that make hubs, they'd be able to do a bespoke pcd, Shirley? :D

 

 

I'm not sure if they'd even look right, maybe time for a photoshoppe  :thumbsup:


Edited by MINI MAD RKH, 06 August 2013 - 04:31 PM.


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 04:36 PM

Having owned several xr2 pepper pots, I'm sure that there isn't enough meat to redrill the wheels, so the only option is to fit fiesta calipers? Then graft the rear hubs on somehow

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 04:45 PM

Adaptors



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Posted 06 August 2013 - 05:19 PM

Do Ultralite make adaptors for the Mini? Or rather, who makes them? :D


Edited by MINI MAD RKH, 06 August 2013 - 05:21 PM.


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 05:27 PM

Just google what PCD to what PCD you require.  Then buy them and fit them.  :highfive:



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Posted 06 August 2013 - 05:50 PM

Yeah, just thought of that :D thanks

 

I shouldn't really be buying wheels, I have 4 1/2 spare sets already, should sell some others 1st :lol:

 

 

so I searched for 4x4'' to 4x108 & it's only giving me listings for 4x100, not the full 4x101.6

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...x108mm&_sacat=0

 

so, custom ones then?

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item27d39197b5

 

will have to ring them, see if they can do 4x101.6


Edited by MINI MAD RKH, 06 August 2013 - 05:59 PM.


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Posted 06 August 2013 - 06:01 PM

I've seen the very early XR3 cloverleaf alloys fitted to a mini 25+ years ago.



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Posted 06 August 2013 - 06:07 PM

-7 is the usual offset for a wide 13, you could make them fit with a little work.
 
Redrilling the wheels, you could redrill the hubs also, but I wouldn't want to do this with the way the Mini suspension and hub works.  You could also see what the difference is between Xr2 rear drums and hubs, and see how easy they will be to change, that won't be a lot of work. The fronts would be slightly harder, but you could get some 101.6mm to 108mm adapters made up, but they'd stick out quite far then depending on offset. 
 
If you want them enough...
 
you can make it happen

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Posted 06 August 2013 - 06:17 PM

Yeah, I have some time, a bit of experience & a maths-head (but no idea about material, no lathe & accurate drilling bench) & can't really justify spending all of that money buying adaptors :(

 

I think I'll try Photoshoppe 1st  :D



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Posted 06 August 2013 - 09:08 PM

Er wouldn't want to spoil the illusion, but.....

 

If you use an adaptor, you space the centreline of the wheel away from the centreline of the bearings, this then loads the wheel bearings and causes premature failure, poor handling, tyre wear, and all sorts of other issues.

 

You could get the flanges and hubs redrilled, or bespoke items made, then modify the wheels to allow for the correct offset, but this is a lot of work (and expense) to get a set of ford wheels onto a BL car

 

it would probably work out cheaper to buy a set of wheels designed to fit.






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