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[bigrob]

Hi guys.

Im a little confused at the moment with the whole 'SVA, IVA, age related plates and Q plates' thing.

Im in the process of planning a kind of metro 6r4 look alike project.

This will consist of a modified metro shell, with the running gear from a toyota mr2 turbo.

Now, while im still planning, im being put off by the possibilities of Q plates and tests in which it's impossible to meet the requirements of the current ruling and legislation.

So if anyone can give me some pointers or advice i would really appreciate it

Cheers
Rob

[andy159]

bungle should be along shortly he likes ivas and such but i dont think they are that impossible to pass, however as i dont know them exactly i cant really comment

[Bungle]

https://www.gov.uk/v...ltered-vehicles

 

anything you don't understand just ask

[Archived2]

Unless you run a business building cars then you are classed as an amateur, Therefor you will have a basic IVA 'biva'.

Not impossible to pass and as long as you read and follow the guidance notes when building you should be fine.

 

allow for test fees into your build costs as they are not cheap (£480+).

[bigrob]

Yeah i've planned to put a grand aside for tests etc.

I just had a quick read through your link Bungle, the only major part of the metro that will be kept is the shell. However, there are 8 points of the mr2 being put into the built. So would it gain the reg of the mr2?

Another problem im missing, is that it states i should be using new parts? There will be very few major new parts, besides gaskets and perishables

[Bungle]

it comes down to how many points you score

 

if you use the unmodified metro shell (5 points) plus other bits that add up to 8 you keep the metro reg

 

is the MR2 a chassis vehicle or monocoque like a mini ?

 

if it's a monocoque you need the unmodified shell if it's the chassis vehicle and you just sticking a different body on top you should score enough points to keep the MR2 reg

 

if your not using a unmodified body or chassis it's a Q reg as your making a new car

 

if you used a new shell (steel or fibreglass ) and mostly new MR2 parts (i think you can use 1 recon part ) you can register it as new and get a new car 14 reg

[ibrooks]

Or if you used a new shell/chassis and old MR2 parts but all from the same car then you would get a plate the same age as the MR2.

 

In theory.......

 

Problem is that the people at the DVLA all seem to be incompetents that in any other walk of life would be locked up for their own safety and the chances of them interpreting the regulations in a way that involves anything remotely resembling common sense is practically nil. Ask two of them what is required and you will almost certainly get two different answers. Ask the same two the following day and you are likely to get two further answers.

 

In the days of the local offices where you could go and talk to someone face-to-face then as long as you had a sensible interpretation of their rules (and a printout in your hand because they don't have copies) then you could usually get what you wanted. Nowadays it's all faceless and you need to send things off and pray that the person who gets your file has the use of the brain cells on that day.

 

Iain

[bigrob]

Yeah ive been led to believe that if your first form/ attempt gets declined or sent back, then try again. As you'll probably get a different answer.

A friend of mine had it before trying to get a logbook for a 1975 triumph spartan kit car. First time they said it needed an iva and a q plate, second time they sent out an age related logbook.



From the research ive done, its subframes with macphearson struts

[Bungle]

From the research ive done, its subframes with macphearson struts

 

 

in that case i don't think your going to have enough of one car to keep one of the V5's

[bigrob]

I was hoping that wasnt the case. So if i sourced all new parts and basically built up a custom chassis for the metro, would that be a different story?

[Bungle]

i think so

 

what you are doing is building a new kit car, it's just your also making the kit as well

 

as all the parts are new (i think you can recon one old part) it's going to be a new car and you can register it as such

 

have a look in the z cars section as many of them are tested and registered as new

[Harrison541]

But if you read the regulations it says a car over 10 years old doesn't need an IVA test. Am I missing something?

[Bungle]

yes the op is building a new car

[bigrob]

So if it was a kit car from the 80's that i dug out of a barn, it wouldnt need one?

[Bungle]

was it correctly registered when built in the 80's

 

 

if it's still down as a Ford Escort estate on the V5 and looks like a westfield it would need correctly registering and a test

 

if the log book was changed , restore , MOT and back on the road