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[Tyred-and-emotional]

Don't things like that show up on the survey when you buy a place? 

 

(I was lucky when I bought my place... I was able to call in favours from mates and had an electrician, a builder and my dad come with me on the viewings to look for potential problems... the estate agent must have thought I had a male harem!   )

[Turbo Nick]

 

Every connection point should have a terminated cpc.
Plastic or metal enclosure would just make me write a C3 or a C2..

Thats overly picky imo, those enclosures dont even have the hole for a earth wire between the tails like older ones and even the din rail inside is plastic on some, the incoming side is tagged and not designed to be connected into either, I dont think I've ever seen one fitted by the metering engineer yet that has an earth terminal provided. The metering position itself would count as the connection point and the main terminal would count as a cpc provided imo, now the 16mm connected right into the cutout rather than an MET block giving nowhere to carry out your Ze test I'd have agreed with?


Pipe moved over and boxed/fixed to the wall plus the main incoming cable cleated and the consumer unit fixed back minimum not at your cost I'd say.

 

 

 

Oh yeah it's definitely being overly picky, I can't say I've ever pulled it and I probably never would.

I just figured it was best to give the OP as much as ammo as possible to fight his corner and get it sorted.

[superted87]

They have come back with " a part p registered installer signed off the work " bla bla bla. They reckon the water pipe is not in breach of any regs and is ok to be plastic with the speedfit connector that close to the CU.

They also said that 150mm rule is only for gas pipes. The Chapter in BS7671 says "utility" . Sounds like sloping shoulders to me !

Safe to say we are drafting a response :)

[djdanmk]

Ask for the installers name and send the pictures to the niceic/napit/eca and see what they have to say about the standard of work one of its members are signing off.

[Turbo Nick]

They let anyone willing to give them money get part P registered, I wouldn't trust anyone who only had part P. 

 

Definitely get onto the NIC, that's what we pay them a stupid amount of money for

[CityEPete]

It doesn't say that shoving your penis into the consumer unit is a bad idea in the regs book either but you wouldn't do it would you?

[petey81]

Nothing wrong with john guess fittings. I use them on pressure steam systems. They handle hell of a lot of abuse.

But that is very slap dash work!

Edited by petey81, 17 February 2015 - 11:10 PM.

[superted87]

Apparently it is all within regs, (according to the builder and their solicitor) so we will now approach the electrician and ask if he left it in that state. If he says he didnt then its back to the builder with the Sparky backing us up. If he says it is good, then its off to NAPIT. 

 

Cheers Guys 

[superted87]

Update, I contacted LABC on my GF behalf so I shall see what happens 

[Bungle]

Ask for the installers name and send the pictures to the niceic/napit/eca and see what they have to say about the standard of work one of its members are signing off.

 

that ^^^^  although if should have a copy of the certificate with their name on it and who their registered with

[superted87]

Right then,

 

Plot thickens. So we complained and "nothing was wrong" BUT ....... Went round to the flat to check the new acoustic glass , which is amazing by the way!!

 

And the builders have been in , fitted a new switch on the cooker, fixed the dishwasher, repainted the hallway and moved the pipe and boxed it in. I think they may have been a little bit motivated as they were aware that we had threatened to talk to LABC ref the installation. Without telling us they went in and sorted everything as if there was never a problem !!

 

Changing something is quite often the biggest admission of guilt needed. I have a feeling the sparky was not to blame for any of it to be honest and was a victim of lazy builders.

 

all sorted now though so cheers for all of your advice , check out my renovation project as it evolves !

[CityEPete]

I've been to put an NIC cert on this today, I did it last year and its not great anyway, 16th board, 6mm main earth no earth at the lights but it scrapes by with a few C2s and C3s.....just....anywho now it has a Gas pipe butted upto it! Reminded me of this thread.