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[Mini Manannán]

I'm after some nice neat rivets for project airbox.  I don't want to use pop rivets.  Grubbing around in my mate's late Dad's box of tricks I've found a couple that would do a neat job but I've no idea what they're called or what tool you use for pulling them down:

 

 

 

The copper coloured rivet has a flat end and would be very neat but is too big and the wrong colour, the purple one would do for size but is the wrong colour as well.  Anyone got any idea what these specific rivets are called, what tools I need to use on and them and where to get them?

[mini93]

They're solid headed rivets. Google shows quite a few different types.

Not that I know how to use them.

[cal844]

Look like rivnuts

[sonikk4]

The purple one looks like a solid hindiminium rivet, an aircraft rivet. The copper one no idea.

Do you want a flush countersunk rivet or a dome / mush headed rivet??

[Mini Manannán]

The purple one looks like a solid hindiminium rivet, an aircraft rivet. The copper one no idea.

Do you want a flush countersunk rivet or a dome / mush headed rivet??

 

Hindiminium?!?!  I know you'd know Sonnik  The copper rivets' shanks are hollow half of the depth if that helps?

 

I'm not sure I'd have the depth available (～2mm) to have them countersunk.  That's why I was drawn to the copper jobbies.  Domed would be OK  I guess.  I've been trawling this morning but haven't found anything as yet.

[Mini Manannán]

A bit more research looking aircraft rivets led me to flat head or 'Tin man' rivets.  Is there a better way to install them than smacking them with a hammer over an anvil?  The bottom corners of the airbox are pretty confined so I'd need a very long, thin anvil to do  them.

[peter-b]

The copper one looks like brake lining rivet.

[elf66]

the copper one is almost certainly a brake lining rivet. These were fitted with a fly press and a pair of rivet snaps set with the stops at the correct compressed gap for the specific shoe and brake lining used.

[chuffed]

To manually put them in at work we have to use a hammer and punch. Or you can use a rivet gun with the approriately sized dolly. Although i doubt you'd have one of them!? The purple one in the picture looks like a mush head rivet, a type called anap head are also available to give a domed head! Otherwise you could do countersunk!

The purple comes of easy with either metal polish or a small amount of scotchbrite/wet and dry. It's just a coating!

Edited by chuffed, 14 August 2015 - 02:57 PM.

[sonikk4]

Unless you can get a pair of rivet squeezers in there then the only way is to try a get a thin enough reaction block onto the tail. Two man job to do properly.

You could use cherry rivets but they are not cheap plus they either come in mush head or countersunk. So much stronger than a Tucker Pop rivet.

[Ethel]

It's not hard to get decent results, the trick is to get the length right. You can get the same as above in aluminium. You just need a snap and something solid to hammer against - like another hammer, unless you want domes on both sides.

[nicklouse]

Why not pop rivets?

The proper closed ones do a good job and don't have a hole in the middle.

[Mini Manannán]

Unless you can get a pair of rivet squeezers in there then the only way is to try a get a thin enough reaction block onto the tail. Two man job to do properly.

You could use cherry rivets but they are not cheap plus they either come in mush head or countersunk. So much stronger than a Tucker Pop rivet. reaction block reaction block

 

reaction block?  Would that be a hammer/anvil in layman speak Sonnik?  Summink to flatten the rivet against?

 

It's not hard to get decent results, the trick is to get the length right. You can get the same as above in aluminium. You just need a snap and something solid to hammer against - like another hammer, unless you want domes on both sides.

 

Snap. That's the word thanks Ethel I'll look into getting one of those.

Why not pop rivets?

The proper closed ones do a good job and don't have a hole in the middle.

 

I've not seen any other pop rivet than the ones you buy down the hardware shop.  Can you link to the type you've mentioned Nick?

[nicklouse]

For example

http://www.stanleyen...osed-end-rivets

You might need to find a nut/bolt/fastener shop for them.

I used them for a plate on a silencer after re packing it.

As implied by their name they seal the hole.

[sonikk4]

The snap forms the head, the reaction block forms the tail so in this case you can use either a flat round steel punch as the snap and ideally a hammer head (not ideal) or something metallic and heavy.

 

Now depending on how tight the gap is and the type of rivet (the softer the better if not using a rivet gun and snap) you could use a tapered chisel to use as a reaction block if you can wedge something under it. I have done this in the past on smaller type rivets ie nothing bigger than 5/32nd.

 

A Cherry rivet will also seal the hole and all you need is a pair of rivet pliers. there are several types and grades, DO NOT use monel. These need a gun to put down properly. Aluminium ones can be put down with rivet pliers up to 5/32 with ease.

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3aaf284161

 

These are 1/8th pan head.

 

These are 5/32nd countersunk

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item2354737f1b