Jump to content


Photo

Rivets


  • Please log in to reply
24 replies to this topic

#16 Mini Manannán

Mini Manannán

    Well I'll be buggered if I can find it

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,857 posts
  • Location: Middle of the Irish Sea
  • Local Club: man Estate

Posted 14 August 2015 - 07:54 PM

Cheers Nick, that might be an idea, I found them at Rimmers so if I can't work out a way of using solid head rivets I'll go for them.



#17 Mini Manannán

Mini Manannán

    Well I'll be buggered if I can find it

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,857 posts
  • Location: Middle of the Irish Sea
  • Local Club: man Estate

Posted 14 August 2015 - 08:03 PM

The snap forms the head, the reaction block forms the tail so in this case you can use either a flat round steel punch as the snap and ideally a hammer head (not ideal) or something metallic and heavy.

 

Now depending on how tight the gap is and the type of rivet (the softer the better if not using a rivet gun and snap) you could use a tapered chisel to use as a reaction block if you can wedge something under it. I have done this in the past on smaller type rivets ie nothing bigger than 5/32nd.

 

A Cherry rivet will also seal the hole and all you need is a pair of rivet pliers. there are several types and grades, DO NOT use monel. These need a gun to put down properly. Aluminium ones can be put down with rivet pliers up to 5/32 with ease.

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3aaf284161

 

These are 1/8th pan head.

 

These are 5/32nd countersunk

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item2354737f1b

 

Er... by rivet pliers do you mean a pop rivet gun?

 

image_1219301792_large.jpg

 

etc...



#18 sonikk4

sonikk4

    Twisted Paint Polisher!!!

  • Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 16,063 posts
  • Name: Neil
  • Location: Oxfordshire

Posted 14 August 2015 - 08:12 PM

 

The snap forms the head, the reaction block forms the tail so in this case you can use either a flat round steel punch as the snap and ideally a hammer head (not ideal) or something metallic and heavy.

 

Now depending on how tight the gap is and the type of rivet (the softer the better if not using a rivet gun and snap) you could use a tapered chisel to use as a reaction block if you can wedge something under it. I have done this in the past on smaller type rivets ie nothing bigger than 5/32nd.

 

A Cherry rivet will also seal the hole and all you need is a pair of rivet pliers. there are several types and grades, DO NOT use monel. These need a gun to put down properly. Aluminium ones can be put down with rivet pliers up to 5/32 with ease.

 

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item3aaf284161

 

These are 1/8th pan head.

 

These are 5/32nd countersunk

http://www.ebay.co.u...=item2354737f1b

 

Er... by rivet pliers do you mean a pop rivet gun?

 

image_1219301792_large.jpg

 

etc...

 

 

Yes, i use a pair of MAC pliers at work and those bad boys can put down 3/16th Aluminium Cherry rivets. The only downside is at that size that are a pain to put down.

 

1/8th and 5/32nd go down really easy.



#19 Mini Manannán

Mini Manannán

    Well I'll be buggered if I can find it

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,857 posts
  • Location: Middle of the Irish Sea
  • Local Club: man Estate

Posted 14 August 2015 - 08:46 PM

Ok, I'll look into cherry rivets,  The nearest I'm able to find on t't web right now is cherrymax rivets whatever they are.  Thanks for the links.



#20 sonikk4

sonikk4

    Twisted Paint Polisher!!!

  • Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 16,063 posts
  • Name: Neil
  • Location: Oxfordshire

Posted 14 August 2015 - 09:34 PM

Ok, I'll look into cherry rivets,  The nearest I'm able to find on t't web right now is cherrymax rivets whatever they are.  Thanks for the links.

 

They will do the job. The biggest thing is knowing how thick the material is you are riveting together. This will then enable you to get the right length of rivet for the job. Most rivets are measured in 1/16ths length wise.  



#21 Mini Manannán

Mini Manannán

    Well I'll be buggered if I can find it

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,857 posts
  • Location: Middle of the Irish Sea
  • Local Club: man Estate

Posted 14 August 2015 - 10:22 PM

The ALU is 1.2mm. Two layers. What do you recommend Sonnik?

#22 Mini Manannán

Mini Manannán

    Well I'll be buggered if I can find it

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,857 posts
  • Location: Middle of the Irish Sea
  • Local Club: man Estate

Posted 15 August 2015 - 05:06 PM

I've made the decision: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221261435068  It'll be a snap to turn a snap up on the lathe, so long as they're not too hard they should a neat job.   Thanks all :highfive:



#23 sonikk4

sonikk4

    Twisted Paint Polisher!!!

  • Admin
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 16,063 posts
  • Name: Neil
  • Location: Oxfordshire

Posted 15 August 2015 - 05:30 PM

You need to find out the spec of these. If their hardness are DD then you will not be able to form them. They need to be ideally AD. Soft enough to put down. DDs need to be heat treated to make them soft enough for use.

#24 Mini Manannán

Mini Manannán

    Well I'll be buggered if I can find it

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,857 posts
  • Location: Middle of the Irish Sea
  • Local Club: man Estate

Posted 15 August 2015 - 06:18 PM

Ok, cheers, I'll send an ebay message, thanks again Neil.



#25 Mini Manannán

Mini Manannán

    Well I'll be buggered if I can find it

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,857 posts
  • Location: Middle of the Irish Sea
  • Local Club: man Estate

Posted 18 August 2015 - 04:38 PM

Rivets arrived today.  Only ordered yesterday morning :-)  He replied to an email (after they'd arrived) to say they are the soft type.  The Ramair ducting also arrived.  Thanks all for your inputs.  Onwards and upwards!






1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users