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[CityEPete]

I've just read that you can fit them on cars registered up to January 1st 1975 now as long as is on historic tax.

[mab01uk]

Yes that is correct. The plates will now give a visual indication of any Historic registered car.......at least where fitted.

 

More details here:-

http://www.theminifo...gal-up-to-1975/

 

Non-Reflective Number Plates linked to rolling Tax Exemption.
"At every FBHVC meeting with the DVLA we learn something completely new! In this case it is that the end date for black and white (or silver and white) number plates is linked to the historic tax class date. So we were told that non-reflective plates are now permitted on vehicles built before 1 January 1975."

See FBHVC Newsletter - Issue 4 - Page 8 (PDF)

http://fbhvc.co.uk/m...letter-archive/

 

Previously the dvla has always stated that the date for the requirement of yellow / white reflective plates is 1st Jan 1973, but I believe their website has not yet been updated to reflect their new rules......

 

Note: The FBHVC newsletter above also has some information from the DVLA on the recent Historic Vehicle verification letters that were sent out to some owners.

Edited by mab01uk, 12 October 2015 - 11:38 AM.

[CityEPete]

I still think they look crap on a 1990s Cooper though,lol

[AVV IT]

Has there actually been any formal confirmation of this though, other than it being proposed/ discussed in a meeting between the DVLA & the FBHVC?

If not, then I wouldn't recommend anyone acting upon this until the DVLA publish formal confirmation, or there is a documented change to the relevent road traffic law/C&U regs etc.

[andyscholes1990]

I have got black and sliver plates to use at shows. I forgot to take them off after the last show and drove around few times and haven't been pulled. We also have a member of our club who has a 93 sprite who has black and sliver plates but his is a personalised reg

[CityEPete]

Has there actually been any formal confirmation of this though, other than it being proposed/ discussed in a meeting between the DVLA & the FBHVC?
If not, then I wouldn't recommend anyone acting upon this until the DVLA publish formal confirmation, or there is a documented change to the relevent road traffic law/C&U regs etc.

It was published in this weeks classic car weekly.

[mab01uk]

I believe the FBHVC were unaware of the change in rules until the DVLA mentioned the change had already happened at a recent meeting between them both about other DVLA related classic car issues.

 

There have been some concerns raised that this is perhaps all part of a greater plan to make Historic cars easy to recognise on the road, should any future legislation be brought in to restrict their use in any way, as has happened in some other European countries........

Edited by mab01uk, 13 October 2015 - 11:38 AM.

[jt19]

Doesn't mean you have to use black and silver Plates surely?

[CityEPete]

Not at all.

[AVV IT]

I believe the FBHVC were unaware of the change in rules until the DVLA mentioned the change had already happened at a recent meeting between them both about other DVLA related classic car issues.
 

Quite possibly, but like I said earlier I have not seen anyone be able to make reference to any actual formal confirmation of this change. As far as I can see, the MOT regs still state pre 73 vehicles, as does the display of registration regs, even DVLA form V796 still does https://www.gov.uk/g...207546/V796.pdf and which is still available on the www.gov.uk website.

Whilst DVLA may well have made a change, it's pretty pointless of them to announce one if none of the associated regulations that the enforcing authorities use have'nt actually been amended. Not that we should be all that surprised by this kind of level of civil service inefficiency!

So what did they publish in classic car weekly? Was there any reference made to any formal confirmation of this change?

[govig]

 

There have been some concerns raised that this is perhaps all part of a greater plan to make Historic cars easy to recognise on the road, should any future legislation be brought in to restrict their use in any way, as has happened in some other European countries........

 

They've actually lifted some restrictions of classic (+30 years old) vehicle use in France although they still need a 5 yearly MOT. However, as always, it's what Brussels ultimately want. I think they would eventually like all classic vehicles off the road on some bogus pollution and/or safety evidence.

 

Edit: 30+ year old vehicles here can have black/silver plates too but that's not compulsory.

Edited by govig, 14 October 2015 - 07:00 PM.

[mab01uk]

 

 

There have been some concerns raised that this is perhaps all part of a greater plan to make Historic cars easy to recognise on the road, should any future legislation be brought in to restrict their use in any way, as has happened in some other European countries........

 

They've actually lifted some restrictions of classic (+30 years old) vehicle use in France although they still need a 5 yearly MOT. However, as always, it's what Brussels ultimately want. I think they would ultimately like all classic vehicles off the road on some bogus pollution and/or safety evidence.

 

Edit: 30+ year old vehicles here can have black/silver plates too but that's not compulsory.

 

 

Below are some interesting comments below from a Belgian classic car enthusiast.......

Quote:-
"In Belgium we had a new registration system introduced nearly 2 years ago which means we can’t no longer keep our old reg numbers and now we are issued with huge plates that totally ruin the appearance of classic cars. There are no provisions to get period related regs, nothing. Our classic cars can be fully Moted and then issued with a “normal” reg (something now starting with 1-DRA-725 or similar) and usable as everyday cars or get through a basic test and be issued with an “oldtimer reg such as this example “1-OBE-467″.That means we can only use the cars in a 25 km radius from home (question is what happens when the car is garaged elsewhere from where you live!), only for tests, we can’t take such a car to go to work or shopping, can’t really use it unless for duly approved meetings by the local federation of clubs. Which means not a lot, of course!

Some police officers are real ******* and stop people driving “O” reg cars, check you haven’t been to the local Tesco’s and that there are no bags with food inside… I know a guy whose number plate was taken off the car, he got fined and had to call a rescue truck to get the car home!

And then don’t even try to modify a post 1968 car (before then there was no type approval in Belgium), if it doesn’t conform to its type approval any more it is failed by the Mot testers… "

[Dusky]

You can drive belgian 'oldtimers ' to the shop and over 25km from your house. Only restriction is you cant go to work with it and you cant go to school with it.
Modifications aren't allowed on new cars either (sadly)

[megamini_jb]

Can't see how but my mate has got away with black and silver pressed plates on a 2008 for years

[Pauly]

Just a thought. If you run black and silver plates on a post 73 car and have a smash, would the insurer still go through with the claim? Or would they void your policy on grounds the car wasn't legal?