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[Alex_B]

I am using Carbon metallic pads on my car and I haven't had any issues with cold stopping power in real world situations, I find they are as good when cold as EBC Black stuff pads which were supplied with my 7.5" conversion kit a few years back. I can't comment on the Mintex pads but the Carbon metallics are good and really bite nicely when you get them hot. But they are expensive so I would probably look at cheaper alternatives first. 

[Cooperman]

Carbon-metallic are even better than the old DS11's when hot and superb from low temperature. 

I have used them for years on my 'S' with solid 7.5" discs and 10" wheels and even on long tarmac special stages they don't fade and are superb.

I don't know whether you can get them for the 8.4" discs, but for that I've used Mintex 1144. On long tarmac stages I did find they tended to fade when really hot (like the discs starting to glow red!), but then I switched to Mintex 1177 and although not as good as an 1144 from cold they were better in the really extreme conditions. For the road the 1144 is the ideal compound.

You really do have to be using slick racing tyres to need any more than this for a Mini.

[86mayfair]

So considering that the Minispares carbon metallic pads for 7.5 S brakes are £90,  and they sell 1144 for £45 a set, would you say that the carbon metallic ones are worth twice as much? This being for a car that is going to be driven pretty hard on the road, and used for the MCR Minis to - kind of events?

[Cooperman]

1144 will be absolutely ideal for what you are going to be doing.

C-M are really only needed for full-on competition where the disks may well get rad hot. With this kind of use a comp brake fluid is needed. I use AP600.

[86mayfair]

I thought as much. We used 1144 in a Kent FF1600 that I ran for a driver last year, and they worked perfectly for that. Considering a FFord only weighs 420kg without driver, and 500kg with a driver, I guessed that they'd be about right for a 800-odd-kg Mini on the road. I'm probably going to use something along the lines of AP600 (now branded as Radi-CAL R2) or Formula 5.1 as it still has good wet and dry boiling points, but is a fair bit less expensive, and although hot, they won't be getting that hot

 

I realise this has slightly hijacked the thread - Sorry OP! 

[James_eaton_thewholething]

I don't mind it's always about getting information and it's good for one thing to lead to another