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#1 silver18

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Posted 22 September 2006 - 11:03 AM

Hi there!
Everyone told me that the air filter cone type is not recommended for a standard engine.
So that I would like to know why!
I've fitted it and I found that the engine is much livelier!

#2 Retro_10s

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Posted 22 September 2006 - 11:13 AM

You're cone filter doesn't dampen Induction roar like a stanmdard filter in a case, and so..is simply louder hence the 'sounding more lively'

Fitting a Cone filter has now Weakened your fuel mixture ( it is running leaner) and so you will now need to get a New Needle in the carb to compensate and richen the the fuel mixture up,.. this way you'll find a slight performance difference too rather than just a loss.

In my experince (and Keith Calvers, and David Vizards) They found much better performance gains by using a K&N standard replacement filter in a drilled Airbox, comapared to a Cone filter.... Cone filters look pretty, but don't flow as well unless you run aluminium ducting from the grill to the outside of the cone.

#3 Big_Adam

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Posted 22 September 2006 - 01:21 PM

but if you get a cheap new 2nd hand K&N whos the wiser. :dontgetit:

but yeah sticking a new filter on leans the mix so you have to rich it and/or get a new needle. i personal just changed the mix and went about my day. does sound ... ... better. but i did a drilled air box before so its only a little lounder. i just got annoyed at taking the airbox out and mine leaked. looked for a new box and found a proper K&N for £30. bought that insted.

#4 taffy1967

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Posted 22 September 2006 - 01:30 PM

You should also get your Mini set up on a rolling road when fitting a K&N cone type filter too, but I just fitted a new needle and haven't bothered yet. And yes they do sound good, but can be a bit noisy on the motorway unless you have the sound deadening material fitted.

#5 minipip

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Posted 22 September 2006 - 01:39 PM

And yes they do sound good, but can be a bit noisy on the motorway unless you have the sound deadening material fitted.


really my motorway journy home from the tune up after fitting my stage 1 was quite plesant, just dont keep ur foot flat, if u stick at a speed and revs ur fine

#6 silver18

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Posted 24 September 2006 - 12:39 PM

Well, having a roolin road session isn't so easy here in Italy!!

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Posted 24 September 2006 - 01:31 PM

will say this about the cone filter. they make messing with the carb internals a bit of a pain. they have a screw head on the back that hits the bottom lip of the dashpot. thats a little annoying. and the corce gasget squishes out....well it dose if you've done it up tight lie mine.

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Posted 24 September 2006 - 01:42 PM

I have had both on mine heres my 2 cents on the topic...

Cone filter
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Look great
Easy access to adjust the carb
lots of noise
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hard to optimise mixture
only tiny power gain (although a gain is a gain)
lots of noise!!

Filter element
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easier to tune
less noise
better power gains

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harder to access carb (idle adjustment etc)
don't kook as good
less noise!

I personally prefer the filter element but each to there own!

#9 fikus01

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Posted 25 September 2006 - 12:04 AM

having done a few head gasked changes i had a large stash of paper gaskets that i used to space my filter element out so it didnt catch the dash pot! just a suggestion!

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Posted 25 September 2006 - 03:07 AM

or dont do it up so tight! lol ;D




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