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#1 beardylondon

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Posted 18 November 2020 - 08:56 PM

I know this isn’t Mini related, but I’m curious how a 1967 Morris is carrying a 1991 registration number?

Surely it should be on an age related/appropriate plate, and DVLA rules say you can’t put a later reg on an older vehicle.

It checks out on the MOT database, as registered 1967, I’m stumped!

https://www.carandcl...uk/car/C1287208

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Posted 18 November 2020 - 08:59 PM

Could it be a private reg? Something very fishy about it

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Posted 18 November 2020 - 09:19 PM

Either way, private reg or not, it’s a J reg, 1991, and you can’t put a later reg on an older vehicle. This is a fact.

Edited by beardylondon, 18 November 2020 - 09:21 PM.


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Posted 18 November 2020 - 09:32 PM

Correct. You cannot legally make a car appear newer than it is.



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Posted 18 November 2020 - 09:33 PM

Strange though, thats the reg its legally registered with. Dodgy indeed.



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Posted 18 November 2020 - 09:41 PM

The DVLA is always consistent in the way they apply the rules about registrations aren't they and everyone who works there (on registrations) does know and understand all the rules don't they.......... :dontgetit:



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Posted 18 November 2020 - 09:47 PM

Looks fine to me. Don’t forget what the reg year actually means. First registered for use on the road. Not made not put in a museum. If a car has been road registered before then yes it would get a plate for then. Hence you can get some 2002 and more recent Minis.



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Posted 18 November 2020 - 09:56 PM

Nick your theory would only apply if the vehicle was not used between being made in 1967 and 1991. Then in 1991 it was registered as new on a J plate. However it says it has only been on a museum the past 12 years. Also the fact it has 74000 miles on it and the DVLA says it was registered 1967, leans towards something else.

Edited by beardylondon, 18 November 2020 - 09:56 PM.


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Posted 18 November 2020 - 10:23 PM

I've seen this before but not on a registration so modern.

 

It was quite common at one point that any car pre 1963 would be given an A reg if it had its "ageless" plate removed.

 

I also saw a MK2 Jag (1960's) on a 1970' s T reg, that was something to do with it being imported and at the time the DVLA gave it a new registration.

 

Sounds like some form of anamoly at the DVLA.



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Posted 18 November 2020 - 10:39 PM

The rule about not being able to have a later plate on a car than it's original date did not always apply.

I bought a Porsche 911 in Germany in 1979. It was a 1973 car but when I got it MoT'd and produced the import documents at the local DVLA office in Luton they gave me the registration FTM69T, which was from their current list. They asked which number I wanted from a batch and I chose 69 as it is my favourite number!

All sorts of things went on with registrations back then and no-one really cared too much.

This 1967 car may well have been brought in from abroad in 1970/71 and automatically given a 'J' plate. Once it had a J-plate, it would probably have been possible to put a more personal J-plate onto it as a substitution.



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Posted 18 November 2020 - 10:41 PM

It’s definitely applied since 1990, which is when they started selling off that year’s registrations, ie from H onwards.

What is interesting is that the reg is definitely is a private reg, as in 1991 numbers 1-21 were reserved for private buyers and not issued in general circulation.

Edited by beardylondon, 18 November 2020 - 10:47 PM.


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Posted 19 November 2020 - 12:09 AM

Did the modern plates with low number have fewer digits or just a lower number? IE: *001*** or *1***

 

Otherwise J9 should make it a 1922 Durham plate (though probably never issued at the time).

-  'ones marked ‘unused’, and some special combinations, e.g. N 1 GEL, were issued centrally as vanity plates by the Drivers & Vehicles Licensing Department'.

 

You can currently buy J9 BUO or J9 BUP for £250 each.

https://dvlaregistra...&super_priceto=


Edited by Itsaminithing, 19 November 2020 - 08:42 AM.


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Posted 19 November 2020 - 12:22 AM

Could be an Northern Ireland car originally then brought to the mainland in 1991 then registered here and got a private plate at that time maybe?

 

A pal of mine from NI bought a new BMW back in 1993 and so it got an NI type plate, he moved to the mainland in 1996 and brought the car with him and he registered it here and it got an "N" 1995/96 registration number.

 

He had a little bit of explaining  to do when he sold it a couple of years later but was honest and told the truth that it was an NI car originally as it should really have been an "L" registration for a 1993 car but the DVLA gave it an "N" registration, 1996, as that was the year it was added to their system.



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Posted 19 November 2020 - 09:05 AM

Ive emailed the seller..



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Posted 19 November 2020 - 09:18 AM

Absolutely not 1922, J prefix is 1991. J9 on its own is an entirely different thing, there’s 3 characters after it for a start. You have the wrong end of the stick.
 

Did the modern plates with low number have fewer digits or just a lower number? IE: *001*** or *1***

Otherwise J9 should make it a 1922 Durham plate (though probably never issued at the time).
- 'ones marked ‘unused’, and some special combinations, e.g. N 1 GEL, were issued centrally as vanity plates by the Drivers & Vehicles Licensing Department'.

You can currently buy J9 BUO or J9 BUP for £250 each.
https://dvlaregistra...&super_priceto=


Edited by beardylondon, 19 November 2020 - 09:53 AM.





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