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[patriotaki]

Can you host the images on Imgur as where they are hosted it is very hard to zoom etc.

But head looks like pre A+ the clutch arm is pre Verto and the block is A+

So I would say it has had a short motor swap.

Oh and the number is nothing like an original one. And I don’t know who made that style.

sure, ive added some additional photos here

https://imgur.com/a/KiuKXti

 

If its a A+ pre Verto, does the car still have value when fully restored? I dont want to start investing in restoration costs, if it ends up being for nothing

[Spider]

 

Engine numbers and engines can be changed at anytime. My Midas originally had a Cooper S engine which was sold on. It now shows as having a Metro engine.

 

So basically I bought an old 1275gt car and i want to fully restore it with original/new parts.

will this engine/car be considered as an antique austin mini 1275 gt car and be "accepted" by the classic mini's community?

 

 

I doubt you'll have any issues with the car being 'accepted', all the same, if it brings you pleasure, then who cares what anyone else thinks.

The last of the GTs from 79 had A+ Engines.
 

[Spider]

Can you host the images on Imgur as where they are hosted it is very hard to zoom etc.

But head looks like pre A+ the clutch arm is pre Verto and the block is A+

So I would say it has had a short motor swap.

Oh and the number is nothing like an original one. And I don’t know who made that style.

 

The heads fitted to the A+ from when those blocks were first introduced up to about 82 or 83 were the same as those before. Likewise, the Verto Clutch wasn't fitted until about 84.

 

For all intents, except for the Rocker Cover, it's all 'in line' with how the late GTs were assembled.

[Chris1275gt]

It will still be a classic 1275gt even with that engine in it, there will be very few 76 gt’s with original unmolested engines in. Refurbish as many parts as you can and replace what you can’t. I wouldn’t get hung up about it, when finished it will still be a desirable car and it is 45 years old after all.

[nicklouse]

Can you host the images on Imgur as where they are hosted it is very hard to zoom etc.

But head looks like pre A+ the clutch arm is pre Verto and the block is A+

So I would say it has had a short motor swap.

Oh and the number is nothing like an original one. And I don’t know who made that style.

sure, ive added some additional photos here
https://imgur.com/a/KiuKXti

If its a A+ pre Verto, does the car still have value when fully restored? I dont want to start investing in restoration costs, if it ends up being for nothing

What is the 5 digit of the chassis number? Looks earlier than 76.

[patriotaki]

 

 

Can you host the images on Imgur as where they are hosted it is very hard to zoom etc.

But head looks like pre A+ the clutch arm is pre Verto and the block is A+

So I would say it has had a short motor swap.

Oh and the number is nothing like an original one. And I don’t know who made that style.

sure, ive added some additional photos here
https://imgur.com/a/KiuKXti

If its a A+ pre Verto, does the car still have value when fully restored? I dont want to start investing in restoration costs, if it ends up being for nothing

What is the 5 digit of the chassis number? Looks earlier than 76.

 

xe2d2-286752a

There is another number FE273870, not sure what that is.

[Chris1275gt]

There is another number FE273870, not sure what that is.
I think that denotes it’s a clubman front end.

[patriotaki]

There is another number FE273870, not sure what that is.
I think that denotes it’s a clubman front end.

First of all thank you all for your awesome help. I am really excited to start the restoration process on the 1275 gt, I will start a thread here of the process. However, the body/chassis is indeed a clubman 1275 gt but it seems like the previous owner replaced the engine for an A+ engine.

 

My question now is, is the A+ engine better than the A series engine that came originally with the 1275 GT? Should i try to find the original engine or stick with the A+ and restore it as much as I can.

 

I am not planning to re-sell the car when fully restored but IF i do I would want to get the highest price possible. I DONT want to "scare" possible future clients because it doesnt have the genuine 1976 engine

 

what do you think?

[Chris1275gt]

Top money would be a concourse restoration with matching numbers. i cant imagine anybody being scared of buying it because of the engine there isn't many 76 reg 1275gts  left, roughly  less than 30 on the road out of about 10.000 made.

Restore it,use it, enjoy it. if you sell it on deduct how much you've spent on it and you'll probably be about £10,000 down, that's the nature of classic car restoration, it's only money you cant take it with you!

Spend £5 on becoming  a member and get 7.5% discount with minispares that's a good start.

Edited by Chris1275gt, 05 October 2021 - 10:51 AM.

[Spider]

My question now is, is the A+ engine better than the A series engine that came originally with the 1275 GT? Should i try to find the original engine or stick with the A+ and restore it as much as I can.

 

Really, for the most part, they are a much for muchness. The A+ Con Rods are lighter, but otherwise, any other material differences are really only academic.

[62S]

Originality is generally the way to top money when selling a collectors car which a 1275 GT in standard spec is these days.

 

There is nothing very special about a standard mid 1970's 1275 GT engine but there is one on ebay at the moment with its original number tag and you could sell off your unit to offset the cost

 

https://www.ebay.co....CUAAOSwbrdhVycI

[nicklouse]

 

 

 

Can you host the images on Imgur as where they are hosted it is very hard to zoom etc.

But head looks like pre A+ the clutch arm is pre Verto and the block is A+

So I would say it has had a short motor swap.

Oh and the number is nothing like an original one. And I don’t know who made that style.

sure, ive added some additional photos here
https://imgur.com/a/KiuKXti

If its a A+ pre Verto, does the car still have value when fully restored? I dont want to start investing in restoration costs, if it ends up being for nothing

What is the 5 digit of the chassis number? Looks earlier than 76.

 

xe2d2-286752a

There is another number FE273870, not sure what that is.

 

It should not be a number. Really you need to pop the tag off and look from the other side.

 

the commission number is correct for a 1275GT the FE number there was never a record of them as far as I am aware.

 

I would send off to heritage with the info you have and see what comes back.

[patriotaki]

Top money would be a concourse restoration with matching numbers. i cant imagine anybody being scared of buying it because of the engine there isn't many 76 reg 1275gts  left, roughly  less than 30 on the road out of about 10.000 made.

Restore it,use it, enjoy it. if you sell it on deduct how much you've spent on it and you'll probably be about £10,000 down, that's the nature of classic car restoration, it's only money you cant take it with you!

Spend £5 on becoming  a member and get 7.5% discount with minispares that's a good start.

 

Thank you! i subscribed already, how do i apply the discount on their shop?

 

My question now is, is the A+ engine better than the A series engine that came originally with the 1275 GT? Should i try to find the original engine or stick with the A+ and restore it as much as I can.

 

Really, for the most part, they are a much for muchness. The A+ Con Rods are lighter, but otherwise, any other material differences are really only academic.

 

 

thank you, if i can find any original 1275 gt engine ill buy it, but if not ill start restoring this engine.

Is it possible to transform a A+ engine to a A series engine? 

 

 

 

 

 

Can you host the images on Imgur as where they are hosted it is very hard to zoom etc.

But head looks like pre A+ the clutch arm is pre Verto and the block is A+

So I would say it has had a short motor swap.

Oh and the number is nothing like an original one. And I don’t know who made that style.

sure, ive added some additional photos here
https://imgur.com/a/KiuKXti

If its a A+ pre Verto, does the car still have value when fully restored? I dont want to start investing in restoration costs, if it ends up being for nothing

What is the 5 digit of the chassis number? Looks earlier than 76.

 

xe2d2-286752a

There is another number FE273870, not sure what that is.

 

It should not be a number. Really you need to pop the tag off and look from the other side.

 

the commission number is correct for a 1275GT the FE number there was never a record of them as far as I am aware.

 

I would send off to heritage with the info you have and see what comes back.

 

thanks! so the body/chassis is genuine 1275 gt but the engine is not

 

thanks once again

[Chris1275gt]

Send [email protected] a pm and he will set you up.

[patriotaki]

If anyone is still curious, i've updated the imgur link with more pictures of the outside of the car

 

https://imgur.com/a/KiuKXti