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#1 mark the diver

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Posted 01 December 2021 - 07:57 AM

I've just come across what I believe to be genuine S shafts and H/S joints. The shafts have the additional lump along the length and the joints have had new bearings fitted. They all appear to be in excellent condition. Are these a desired item and if so what sort of value could I be looking at? Thanks.



#2 GraemeC

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Posted 01 December 2021 - 08:52 AM

Prices seem to vary - I've seen them go for buttons but at the same time I've seen some for sale recently at over £150 which I think is a bit strong.  
The driveshafts are functionally no different to normal ones, they are no stronger or thicker (apart from where the raised ring is).

 

However if they are in good condition then they are certainly saleable.  In fact I would be interested myself as I could do with a set of joints - could you send pictures?



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Posted 01 December 2021 - 10:33 AM

Thanks for the reply, this is the only picture I have at the moment, taken whilst replacing the bearings.

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Posted 01 December 2021 - 10:42 AM

Looks like it has drum CVs fitted. Odd that.



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Posted 01 December 2021 - 10:46 AM

Looks like it has drum CVs fitted. Odd that.


Some 998 automatic Minis came with Hardy Spicers.

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Posted 01 December 2021 - 11:01 AM

 

Looks like it has drum CVs fitted. Odd that.


Some 998 automatic Minis came with Hardy Spicers.

 

But they did not have the bump that I am aware of.

 

but yes.



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Posted 01 December 2021 - 11:16 AM

Thinking about it they might well have come from an automatic, if that is the case would the shafts and joints be the same as those from cooper S ?



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Posted 01 December 2021 - 11:48 AM

Thinking about it they might well have come from an automatic, if that is the case would the shafts and joints be the same as those from cooper S ?

Yes  other than the outer CV and the diff side connections can be different, 


Edited by nicklouse, 01 December 2021 - 11:48 AM.


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Posted 01 December 2021 - 02:23 PM



But they did not have the bump that I am aware of.

but yes.


I’m not sure if it was here or another forum but I have seen some debate about whether the drive shafts with the bump and actually specific to S or just from a different sub manufacturer to the smooth ones.

Edited by Tupers, 01 December 2021 - 02:23 PM.


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Posted 01 December 2021 - 02:31 PM

 


But they did not have the bump that I am aware of.

but yes.


I’m not sure if it was here or another forum but I have seen some debate about whether the drive shafts with the bump and actually specific to S or just from a different sub manufacturer to the smooth ones.

 

Not heard that one before. But an earlier post comments that they are the same material…. 



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Posted 01 December 2021 - 05:17 PM

Prices seem to vary - I've seen them go for buttons but at the same time I've seen some for sale recently at over £150 which I think is a bit strong.  
The driveshafts are functionally no different to normal ones, they are no stronger or thicker (apart from where the raised ring is).

 

However if they are in good condition then they are certainly saleable.  In fact I would be interested myself as I could do with a set of joints - could you send pictures?

If you want to split, I'm interested in the shafts.  Got joints.



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Posted 04 December 2021 - 06:43 PM

The shafts with the lump are from Automatic and Cooper S - hence the small CV's on the shafts shown above. The Hardy Spicer shafts are a different length to rubber coupling shafts



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Posted 04 December 2021 - 08:15 PM

The shafts with the lump are from Automatic and Cooper S - hence the small CV's on the shafts shown above. The Hardy Spicer shafts are a different length to rubber coupling shafts

By how much?



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Posted 05 December 2021 - 12:02 PM

Think it was 1/8" (may even have been less) - something and nothing and effectively interchangeable.



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Posted 05 December 2021 - 12:09 PM

Think it was 1/8" (may even have been less) - something and nothing and effectively interchangeable.

Interesting. One shorter shaft no bump. So most likely from a Hardy spicer joint set up from an Auto. The rest from X type. 
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Edited by nicklouse, 05 December 2021 - 12:09 PM.





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