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[cal844]

Having watched Mighty car mods on YouTube, I have to agree that Haltech is the way to go with regards to programming and general customer service being far better than any other ecu manufacturers and tuners

[Indigo]

 

,,,,,,,and fit a Haltech Elite with built in MAP sensor and fitting the air bypass for fast idle.

I am thinking of doing this but cost is about $2,000 AUD which includes the ECU, new air bypass valve, new loom and an AFR wideband sensor..

 

The telephone support for Haltech is first class. I found their software quite intuitive and I'm all thumbs with anything IT.

I got an Elite 550 with a basic harness, they threw in a complete set of additional plug pins and went from there.........

 

Spider, who did you purchase the Elite 550 from?  Direct from Haltech or an agent?

[Spider]

 

 

,,,,,,,and fit a Haltech Elite with built in MAP sensor and fitting the air bypass for fast idle.

I am thinking of doing this but cost is about $2,000 AUD which includes the ECU, new air bypass valve, new loom and an AFR wideband sensor..

 

The telephone support for Haltech is first class. I found their software quite intuitive and I'm all thumbs with anything IT.

I got an Elite 550 with a basic harness, they threw in a complete set of additional plug pins and went from there.........

 

Spider, who did you purchase the Elite 550 from?  Direct from Haltech or an agent?

 

 

Direct from Haltech, they aren't too far from me and I feel making that personal contact my have helped as the couple I times I rang, I introduced myself as 'Chris with the Mini' and the guys knew right away who I was.

[Bobbins]

If you're considering a conversion to fuel injection it'd be worth reading Dave Walker's book "Engine Management", its extremely informative and simplifies the black art. In the meantime this article by Dave on the Emerald website is worth reading for some additional info: https://www.emeraldm...midget_Project/ , and gives a little insight into the difficulties the A-Series presents when fitting fuel injection.

[PoolGuy]

 

Car runs well, except for the first couple of minutes when it is warming up.

The throttle body and manifold are good but there is no facility for an air bypass for fast idle, cold running (this would be easy to overcome).

 

Does the SC ecu use ign advance to control idle? If it does you could set the idea screw high to give a fast idle at warm up and then the ecu ign advance would lower the idle when warm? (I'm not familiar with the SC ecu so this may not be possible in the way that it is with the Polestar system)

[Indigo]

 

 

Car runs well, except for the first couple of minutes when it is warming up.

The throttle body and manifold are good but there is no facility for an air bypass for fast idle, cold running (this would be easy to overcome).

 

Does the SC ecu use ign advance to control idle? If it does you could set the idea screw high to give a fast idle at warm up and then the ecu ign advance would lower the idle when warm? (I'm not familiar with the SC ecu so this may not be possible in the way that it is with the Polestar system)

 

Yes, the ECU uses ignition advance to manage idle speed against the set target.  Sounds the same as the Polestar.

[I hate Brian]

Cheers again guys some reading and research to do !

[Steve220]

 

 

 

,,,,,,,and fit a Haltech Elite with built in MAP sensor and fitting the air bypass for fast idle.

I am thinking of doing this but cost is about $2,000 AUD which includes the ECU, new air bypass valve, new loom and an AFR wideband sensor..

 

The telephone support for Haltech is first class. I found their software quite intuitive and I'm all thumbs with anything IT.

I got an Elite 550 with a basic harness, they threw in a complete set of additional plug pins and went from there.........

 

Spider, who did you purchase the Elite 550 from?  Direct from Haltech or an agent?

 

 

Direct from Haltech, they aren't too far from me and I feel making that personal contact my have helped as the couple I times I rang, I introduced myself as 'Chris with the Mini' and the guys knew right away who I was.

 

Same experience as mine.

 

I have a haltech Elite 1000 (mainly as i wanted knock strategy and a few other bits) and a basic loom. Haltech UK have been nothing but helpful, especially with my mundane questions. They have provided me with Moog's (MCM) map as a base for my set up and have said they'll remotely look over my set up prior to first start.

[I hate Brian]

Looks like it might be Haltech, as there is a supplier    https://www.sttpr.com very close to me, they seem to be into American muscle cars

[Mini Manannán]

,,,,,,,and fit a Haltech Elite with built in MAP sensor and fitting the air bypass for fast idle.
I am thinking of doing this but cost is about $2,000 AUD which includes the ECU, new air bypass valve, new loom and an AFR wideband sensor..

The telephone support for Haltech is first class. I found their software quite intuitive and I'm all thumbs with anything IT.

I got an Elite 550 with a basic harness, they threw in a complete set of additional plug pins and went from there. I wouldn't like to use a custom loom as the wire routing is likely not what I would like, along with additional connectors from loom to engine (so when removing the engine, it's only 1 plug) and I also standardised the loom wire colours to align with the rest of the car. While it has Injection Capabilities, I'm only using it for Ignition. I only paid around $1200.00 and that included Air and Coolant senders.

All the same, with coolant temp input, you can program the ECU using that to advance the ignition timing a few degrees when it's cold for a fast idle.

I haven't had direct experience with other brands, so I can't compare, in that regards, but I an impressed and very happy with the Haltech, not just for their support but also the way their gear is made.

How many coils do you use Chris? 2 with wasted spark? Only reason I ask is I have two coils in stock and am considering binning the Speeduino project we've been struggling with for 3 years and the most basic Haltech 550 sounds like it'll fit the bill.

[Spider]

 

 

,,,,,,,and fit a Haltech Elite with built in MAP sensor and fitting the air bypass for fast idle.
I am thinking of doing this but cost is about $2,000 AUD which includes the ECU, new air bypass valve, new loom and an AFR wideband sensor..

The telephone support for Haltech is first class. I found their software quite intuitive and I'm all thumbs with anything IT.

I got an Elite 550 with a basic harness, they threw in a complete set of additional plug pins and went from there. I wouldn't like to use a custom loom as the wire routing is likely not what I would like, along with additional connectors from loom to engine (so when removing the engine, it's only 1 plug) and I also standardised the loom wire colours to align with the rest of the car. While it has Injection Capabilities, I'm only using it for Ignition. I only paid around $1200.00 and that included Air and Coolant senders.

All the same, with coolant temp input, you can program the ECU using that to advance the ignition timing a few degrees when it's cold for a fast idle.

I haven't had direct experience with other brands, so I can't compare, in that regards, but I an impressed and very happy with the Haltech, not just for their support but also the way their gear is made.

How many coils do you use Chris? 2 with wasted spark? Only reason I ask is I have two coils in stock and am considering binning the Speeduino project we've been struggling with for 3 years and the most basic Haltech 550 sounds like it'll fit the bill.

 

 

Tim, OK, I'm mad, my requirements are rather 'off beat' but the sole reason I went for this was (as mentioned) just for the Ignition side of it and what I have been after for some time was a Coil On Plug (COP) arrangement, so effectively, I have 4 coils and best but, no HT system to speak of, so deep water crossings are no longer an issue. On top of that I can see that - once I get it MAPed correctly the overall engine performance will be slightly improved as well as using less fuel. I also have the option of having 2 MAPs, each being easily selectable, so I can tune it for high and low octane fuels.

 

The particular COP units I'm using are from a Toyota Corolla.

 

I should add here too that with our local Haltech Guys (which is in fact the factory), while they have been extremely helpful with the Haltech unit itself, suggesting pick up triggers, and other inputs, where it comes to specific A Series stuff, they have only ever seen 1 other and they have very limited experience there and little they could help with other than to say if I ever did want to inject, a wet manifold would be by far the easiest arrangement, though, with enough Dyno time and not too crazy cams, port injection can be done.

 

The Haltech also has a CAN Bus if you want it. I * think * that can be used for programing (?) and also outputs for external instrumentation and loggers.

 

 

I have a haltech Elite 1000 (mainly as i wanted knock strategy and a few other bits) and a basic loom. Haltech UK have been nothing but helpful, especially with my mundane questions. They have provided me with Moog's (MCM) map as a base for my set up and have said they'll remotely look over my set up prior to first start.

 

I agonised for some time between the 550 and the 1000, with the latter being desirable for the same reasons as you have, for the knock sensor. In the end, I decided to run with the 550 so as to not be overwhelmed with too much at once as this ECU stuff is new to me, but if I were to go again (and I still may), I wouldn't hesitate to go for the 1000.

Is there any chance I could get a copy of your MAP ? I'd be eternally grateful. I have dialed in a very very basic MAP based on the distributor curve and while an improvement right away, I'd like a better starting point.
 

[nicklouse]

As polestar has been mentioned I recommend  giving them a call. They do an ignition only set up and a ignition and injection set up.

 

a series back ground. We had one of his first set ups that needed a chip change to change the map’s (back in 1995ish) now has (as you would expect) better software and easy means to change the maps. Works with his own rigger wheels or the MED ones along with the DSN timing chain covers or just the MED kit.

 

well worth having a chat with them (him) about your wants.

Yes I have an ignition only set up

the business card I kept from the 90s

 

 

 

[I hate Brian]

Cheers Nicklouse 

[Steve220]

Aren't Polestar the ecu manufacturer that claim to have the MPi injector sequence? I'd be interested to see where that develops, I think some of the boosted lads would too.

[Steve220]

 

 

 

,,,,,,,and fit a Haltech Elite with built in MAP sensor and fitting the air bypass for fast idle.
I am thinking of doing this but cost is about $2,000 AUD which includes the ECU, new air bypass valve, new loom and an AFR wideband sensor..

The telephone support for Haltech is first class. I found their software quite intuitive and I'm all thumbs with anything IT.

I got an Elite 550 with a basic harness, they threw in a complete set of additional plug pins and went from there. I wouldn't like to use a custom loom as the wire routing is likely not what I would like, along with additional connectors from loom to engine (so when removing the engine, it's only 1 plug) and I also standardised the loom wire colours to align with the rest of the car. While it has Injection Capabilities, I'm only using it for Ignition. I only paid around $1200.00 and that included Air and Coolant senders.

All the same, with coolant temp input, you can program the ECU using that to advance the ignition timing a few degrees when it's cold for a fast idle.

I haven't had direct experience with other brands, so I can't compare, in that regards, but I an impressed and very happy with the Haltech, not just for their support but also the way their gear is made.

How many coils do you use Chris? 2 with wasted spark? Only reason I ask is I have two coils in stock and am considering binning the Speeduino project we've been struggling with for 3 years and the most basic Haltech 550 sounds like it'll fit the bill.

 

 

Tim, OK, I'm mad, my requirements are rather 'off beat' but the sole reason I went for this was (as mentioned) just for the Ignition side of it and what I have been after for some time was a Coil On Plug (COP) arrangement, so effectively, I have 4 coils and best but, no HT system to speak of, so deep water crossings are no longer an issue. On top of that I can see that - once I get it MAPed correctly the overall engine performance will be slightly improved as well as using less fuel. I also have the option of having 2 MAPs, each being easily selectable, so I can tune it for high and low octane fuels.

 

The particular COP units I'm using are from a Toyota Corolla.

 

I should add here too that with our local Haltech Guys (which is in fact the factory), while they have been extremely helpful with the Haltech unit itself, suggesting pick up triggers, and other inputs, where it comes to specific A Series stuff, they have only ever seen 1 other and they have very limited experience there and little they could help with other than to say if I ever did want to inject, a wet manifold would be by far the easiest arrangement, though, with enough Dyno time and not too crazy cams, port injection can be done.

 

The Haltech also has a CAN Bus if you want it. I * think * that can be used for programing (?) and also outputs for external instrumentation and loggers.

 

 

I have a haltech Elite 1000 (mainly as i wanted knock strategy and a few other bits) and a basic loom. Haltech UK have been nothing but helpful, especially with my mundane questions. They have provided me with Moog's (MCM) map as a base for my set up and have said they'll remotely look over my set up prior to first start.

 

I agonised for some time between the 550 and the 1000, with the latter being desirable for the same reasons as you have, for the knock sensor. In the end, I decided to run with the 550 so as to not be overwhelmed with too much at once as this ECU stuff is new to me, but if I were to go again (and I still may), I wouldn't hesitate to go for the 1000.

Is there any chance I could get a copy of your MAP ? I'd be eternally grateful. I have dialed in a very very basic MAP based on the distributor curve and while an improvement right away, I'd like a better starting point.
 

 

Hi Chris,

 

Yeh, no worries. DM me a good email address, and i'll see what I can do.

Edited by Steve220, 02 January 2022 - 10:30 AM.