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[kkeith]

Son hit a curb and since then the opposed side wheel (drivers side) is sitting forward, towards the front of the arch.

I’ve checked the suspension and all seems ok (in doing so managed to damage the bump stop and knuckle!) - any ideas as nothing obviously bent. Problem is worse on full lock (wheel rubs against the arch).

The passenger side wheel sits about 3 inches off the front and back of arch and 4 inches below the arch.
The drivers side is same except is about 1.5inches at the front.

Thanks

Edited by kkeith, 21 September 2023 - 04:17 AM.

[Spider]

Has the whole subframe moved / twisted relative to the body ?

[kkeith]

Has the whole subframe moved / twisted relative to the body ?

Not that I can tell.

[kkeith]

Son hit a curb at speed and since then the opposed side wheel (drivers side) is sitting forward, towards the front of the arch.

I’ve checked the suspension and all seems ok (in doing so managed to damage the bump stop and knuckle!) - any ideas as nothing obviously bent. Problem is worse on full lock (wheel rubs against the arch).

The passenger side wheel sits about 3 inches off the front and back of arch and 4 inches below the arch.
The drivers side is same except is about 1.5inches at the front.

Thanks

Here’s a picture showing wheel close to arch (front)

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[MatthewsDad]

Haynes has alignment dimensions for front subframe. Once you are sure the subframe is not misaligned you could use this for datum points in relation to the suspension components.

I'd also check the subframe mounts on the toe board. These can get rusty unnoticed, and give way with a bump.

Good luck, hope it's not too bad to sort out.

[Tupers]

Have you got a rubber mounted subframe?

If all the suspension components look straight you may find that one of more of the subframe mounts has had the rubber shear from the steel backing and allowed the subframe to twist in the body.

[kkeith]

Yes, rubber mounts all round. I will check thoroughly under the car tomorrow. thanks

[sonikk4]

You say there is nothing obviously bent however i would check the tie rods as a matter of course. And i mean by taking them off and checking with a straight edge.

 

And yes as mentioned about the rubbers check them.

[kkeith]

On closer inspection it seems the problem is with the steering rack. With passenger side wheel straight the drivers side is pointing outward and the rack arm whilst no obvious bend pushes up against the frame on full lock.

Subframe mounts all look ok (were recently replaced) and tie rod are the heavy duty and look true.

Edited by kkeith, 03 January 2022 - 10:59 AM.

[greenwheels]

an easy quick check would be to measure the distance between the front and rear wheel centres each side.

[sonscar]

The rack will not move the wheel forward.Something has physically moved.I would look closely at the side that looks OK.As mentioned a bent tie rod or mounting ear on the affected side will cause this.It has moved a lot y the pictures.Bad luck,hope it is cheap to repair,Steve..

[pete l]

Surely hitting a kerb would push the wheel back not forwards ?

 

Unless he hit it while reversing  !

[Spherix]

Surely hitting a kerb would push the wheel back not forwards ?

 

Unless he hit it while reversing  !

 

If he hit the tie rod and bent it, wouldn't the wheel be pulled forward? Same for a rear mounting rubber shearing: the pull will then be toward the front remaining rubbers

[pete l]

So he didn't hit the kerb with the wheel then ?

 

did he drive on to a kerb ?? that would bend the tie bar and pull the bottom of the hub forwards. 

[pete l]

just re read his post, its the side that DIDN'T hit the kerb that's moved forwards !