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[mbolt998]

Missing the commercials,pickups,estates,vans and 95Ls are usually listed separately

They should be in there. This is the complete list of what's on the graph:

 

AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI 1000
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI 1000 AUTO
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI 1000 CITY E
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI 1000 CITY E AUTO
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI 1000 HL E
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI 1000 HL E AUTO
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI 1000 PICK UP
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI 1000 VAN
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI 1275 GT
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI 25
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI 850 PICK UP
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI 850 VAN
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI ADVANTAGE
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI AUTO
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI CHELSEA
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI CLUBMAN
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI CLUBMAN AUTO
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI COOPER
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI COOPER S
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI COUNTRYMAN
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI DESIGNER
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI JET BLACK
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI MAYFAIR
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI MAYFAIR AUTO
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI MOKE
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI PARK LANE
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI PICCADILLY
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI RACING FLAME
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI RED HOT
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI RITZ
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI SKY ROSE
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI SPL
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI SPRITE
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI THIRTY
AUSTIN MINI/AUSTIN/MINI THIRTY AUTO
AUSTIN MORRIS MINI/AUSTIN MORRIS/MINI 1000
AUSTIN MORRIS MINI/AUSTIN MORRIS/MINI 1000 AUTO
AUSTIN MORRIS MINI/AUSTIN MORRIS/MINI 1275 GT
AUSTIN MORRIS MINI/AUSTIN MORRIS/MINI 850
AUSTIN MORRIS MINI/AUSTIN MORRIS/MINI 850 AUTO
AUSTIN MORRIS MINI/AUSTIN MORRIS/MINI 850 SUPER
AUSTIN MORRIS MINI/AUSTIN MORRIS/MINI 95
AUSTIN MORRIS MINI/AUSTIN MORRIS/MINI 95L
AUSTIN MORRIS MINI/AUSTIN MORRIS/MINI CITY
AUSTIN MORRIS MINI/AUSTIN MORRIS/MINI CITY AUTO
AUSTIN MORRIS MINI/AUSTIN MORRIS/MINI CLUBMAN
AUSTIN MORRIS MINI/AUSTIN MORRIS/MINI CLUBMAN AUTO
AUSTIN MORRIS MINI/AUSTIN MORRIS/MINI HL
AUSTIN MORRIS MINI/AUSTIN MORRIS/MINI HL AUTO
AUSTIN MORRIS MINI/AUSTIN MORRIS/MINI SPECIAL
AUSTIN SEVEN/AUSTIN/SEVEN
MORRIS MINI/MORRIS/MINI
MORRIS MINI/MORRIS/MINI 1000
MORRIS MINI/MORRIS/MINI 1000 AUTO
MORRIS MINI/MORRIS/MINI 1000 PICK UP
MORRIS MINI/MORRIS/MINI 1000 VAN
MORRIS MINI/MORRIS/MINI 1275 GT
MORRIS MINI/MORRIS/MINI 850 PICK UP
MORRIS MINI/MORRIS/MINI 850 VAN
MORRIS MINI/MORRIS/MINI AUTO
MORRIS MINI/MORRIS/MINI CLUBMAN
MORRIS MINI/MORRIS/MINI CLUBMAN AUTO
MORRIS MINI/MORRIS/MINI COOPER
MORRIS MINI/MORRIS/MINI COOPER S
MORRIS MINI/MORRIS/MINI TRAVELLER
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI 1000 CITY E
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI 1000 CITY E AUTO
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI 35
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI 40
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI BRITISH OPEN CLASSIC
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI CABRIO
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI CLASSIC COOPER S500
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI CONVERTIBLE
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI COOPER
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI COOPER 1.3I
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI COOPER 35 ANNIV
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI COOPER MONTE CARLO
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI COOPER SPORT
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI COOPER SPORTS LE
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI EQUINOX
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI ITALIAN JOB
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI JOHN COOPER
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI MAYFAIR
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI MAYFAIR AUTO
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI NEON
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI PAUL SMITH
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI RAC FLAME CHECKMT A
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI RACG FLAME CHECKMATE
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI RIO
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI SEVEN
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI SIDEWALK
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI SPRITE
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI SPRITE A
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI STUDIO 2
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI TAHITI
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI TAHITI AUTO
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI THIRTY
ROVER MINI/ROVER/MINI THIRTY AUTO

[mbolt998]

 

Missing the commercials,pickups,estates,vans and 95Ls are usually listed separately

 

No, they are included.

 

I presume the Minis untaxed and stored away before SORN came in are not accounted for:-

 

"SORN isn’t needed if your vehicle was last taxed before 31 January 1998. If your vehicle's road tax ran out before SORN was introduced, you do not need to declare SORN or declare in any other way that it is off the road. Neither will you receive any tax reminders. It will only come under the SORN system after it is re-taxed and put back on the road for the first time."

 

You are right, but I don't think it alter the broad picture.

Even if the ratio is changing from 2 SORN to 1 Mini licenced towards 3 to 1, those "SORN" Minis did not come back.

Overall the trend for the last decade is to loose about 5 to 10% every single year.

In the corona years the trend had flattened for the licenced Mini to about 2 to 3 % but the SORN numbers lowered accordingly, so yes, while corona more SORN Minis has gotten brought back to life, but the combined numbers sadly were stable between minus 5 to 10%...

 

Also might some of the SORNed ones have been scrapped? When you scrap it I assume you're supposed to fill in the V5, give it to the dealer, and he's supposed to tell DVLA. But in practice I suspect many people have lost the V5, don't care, and just want rid of the car. The scrap metal dealer can't be bothered with paperwork.

[MatthewsDad]

I've always struggled to work out how SPI Coopers there are. The Rover Cooper category appears to start in 95/96 so presumably these are MPI models? There are lots of special edition Rover Coopers and I wonder whether the SPI models are limited in their own right.

[Mr.greenPullover]

I've always struggled to work out how SPI Coopers there are. The Rover Cooper category appears to start in 95/96 so presumably these are MPI models? There are lots of special edition Rover Coopers and I wonder whether the SPI models are limited in their own right.

 

The graphs about tax/sorn starts all about 1995 - for more details there is a tab called "years" but you have to know which years offers which coopers, as the RSPs should be also somewhere in there - and there are multiple categories that contains coopers. So in the end you could make an educated guess.

Sadly the very good website austinminiwebsearch.com seams to be down...

 

 

Also might some of the SORNed ones have been scrapped? When you scrap it I assume you're supposed to fill in the V5, give it to the dealer, and he's supposed to tell DVLA. But in practice I suspect many people have lost the V5, don't care, and just want rid of the car. The scrap metal dealer can't be bothered with paperwork.

 

Definitively I think so, but there I have no assumption or educated guess for as we germans only know registered and not registered cars. And not registered can mean both as SORN or scrapped...