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#31 DeadSquare

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Posted 22 October 2023 - 03:42 PM

It's lucky that most EV manufacturers are moving away from lithium batteries. I'm purchasing the byd dolphin which has the blade battery.

From an environmental angle, how does recycling a Blade battery compare with a Lithium ?

 

And from an Old Age Pensioner's angle, How does the cost of a Blade battery compare with Lithium ?



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Posted 22 October 2023 - 03:52 PM

 

Lithium battery issues have been ongoing.
 
For us Aviation Types, this was highlighted when a Ethiopian Air B787 suffered very expensive fire damage when a cell in a Lithium-Ion Battery short circuited causing a very expensive fire.
 
The result of this was Boeing grounding the 787 fleet until they came up with a suitable fix. Namely the main Aircraft batteries are encapsualted in a stainless steel box. So if thermal runaway occurs the damage is isolated to the box. This bloody thing has somewhere around 60 10//32 bolts (it maybe 1/4) which makes changing a battery a massive chore.
 
Now for a pure EV car this would be unrealistic to do. The extra weight plus the expense would just be pointless to a manufactuer. However for a Hybrid??



Am I right in thinking an Airbus plane had a similar problem? I shoot with a guy who was part of the design team and I'm sure he said that they were suffering from some sort of overheating on the ground.

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The A350 has to have power shut down in a specific sequence, we call it a reverse bow, bow as in bow tie shape.

 

Also certain things have to be on for starting the APU as the power drain is huge. Again like the 787, both very complex Aircraft but the 787 is a DC hungry producing monster.

 

So Batteries on these Aircraft are not very tolerant of not being selected incorrectly or not being charged properly.



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Posted 22 October 2023 - 07:57 PM

It's lucky that most EV manufacturers are moving away from lithium batteries. I'm purchasing the byd dolphin which has the blade battery.


Well I've learnt two things today, I'd never heard of a BYD Dolphin which is a good looking car, or blade batteries which seem like a massive step forward.

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Posted 25 October 2023 - 06:43 AM


It's lucky that most EV manufacturers are moving away from lithium batteries. I'm purchasing the byd dolphin which has the blade battery.

From an environmental angle, how does recycling a Blade battery compare with a Lithium ?

And from an Old Age Pensioner's angle, How does the cost of a Blade battery compare with Lithium ?

https://blog.evbox.c...ries-recyclable

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Posted 25 October 2023 - 09:20 AM

 

 

It's lucky that most EV manufacturers are moving away from lithium batteries. I'm purchasing the byd dolphin which has the blade battery.

From an environmental angle, how does recycling a Blade battery compare with a Lithium ?

And from an Old Age Pensioner's angle, How does the cost of a Blade battery compare with Lithium ?

https://blog.evbox.c...ries-recyclable

 

Interesting read, thank you.

 

My wife's great nephew acquired all the desired qualification when he left Uni this year, but has found that there is no where in UK that can recycle EVs because the EU hasn't drawn up the licence specification, and there are a host of UK prohibitions that stop someone starting a recycling business ?






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