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#1 nev_payne

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Posted 17 November 2006 - 01:26 PM

Hey folks, your friendly giant here. :w00t:

Fitting a water pump tommorow on 1992 998cc. Part has arrived with gasket which is fine, just wanted to know if theres any pre-fitting proceedures I should do like greasing up or WD40 in the moving part.

Many thanks ;)

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Posted 17 November 2006 - 01:29 PM

nah, coolant acts as a water pump lube anyway, just check it has free smooth movement. WD40 will just get washed away anyway.

i would put a very light smear of multipurpose grease around the gasket though, just helps it seal it up properly.

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Posted 17 November 2006 - 01:30 PM

cheers mate :w00t: in regards to tightening bolts up I dont have a torque wrench to hand so literally as tight as possible without sheering?

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Posted 17 November 2006 - 01:41 PM

No i think there has to be specific torque setting otheriwse the thread on the bolt may stretch etc......, could end up damaging the block..... hmmmmm, let me see........ (be right back...)

Right they have to be torqued to 17lb/ft

Edited by Retro_10s, 17 November 2006 - 01:41 PM.


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Posted 17 November 2006 - 03:13 PM

damn it no torque wrench :w00t:

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Posted 17 November 2006 - 03:20 PM

Buy one, they are important :w00t:

You can get one from Argos for £15 but I dont think it goes as low as 17 lb/ft.

No one in your club got one that you can borrow for two minutes to nip the bolts up ?

When doing bits like this it is really important to use it to get the seal correct, too tight and you squish the gasket too much and it wont seal properly, too loose and it wont seal properly and will work its way loose.

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Posted 17 November 2006 - 03:40 PM

belive that machine mart has one of the best in its price range.

Like £15 won in a test with a load of others in a mini mag a little while back.

http://www.machinemart.co.uk/

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think its this one:

http://www.machinema...asp?p=040212720

Edited by Big_Adam, 17 November 2006 - 03:42 PM.


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Posted 17 November 2006 - 04:03 PM

The torque setting for the Water pump pulley bolts is 10Nm or 7 lb ft

these are all the settings for a mini 998cc engine that i have got out og my haynes manual dont know weather it helps or not but here they are

Torque wrench settings
......................................................................Nm........
...lbf ft
Auxiliary drivebelt tensioner bolt ………………………...22……………..16….
Camshaft retaining bolts …………………………………......11……………...8…..
Camshaft sprocket nut……………………………………........90……………..66…
Connecting rod big end nut……………………………….......45……………...33….
Crankshaft pulley bolt……………………………………........150…………….111..

Cylinder head nuts

Stage 1……………………………………………………................34……………..25
Stage 2…………………………………………………….................68……………..50
Engine left hand plate bolt………………………………….......11……………..8

Engine mountings

Left hand engine mounting bracket to transmission……….25……………18
Left hand engine mounting to mounting bracket…………....22……………16
Left hand engine mounting to sub frame…………………........22……………16
Right hand engine mounting to flywheel housing cover …18……………13
Right hand mounting to subframe…………………………...........22………..….16
Engine lower tie bar to subframe…………………………............40……………30
Engine lower tie bar to transmission bracket……………….....40……...…….30
Engine upper tie bar to bulkhead…………………………............22…………....16
Engine upper tie bar to cylinder head……………………...........22…..………..16
Flywheel centre bolt………………………………………...................150…….…….111
Flywheel housing bolts……………………………………...................25…………...18
Flywheel housing cover bolts…………………………….................10……………7
Main bearing bolt…………………………………………......................85…………....63
Oil pressure relief valve nut………………………………................60……………44
Oil pressure switch………………………………………......................25………...….18
Oil pump bolts…………………………………………..…......................11……………8
Oil temperature sensor…………………………………..................…60………..…..44
Rocker cover bolts………………………………….………....................5………….…4
Rocker shaft pedestal nuts…………………………….............….....25………..…..18
Timing chain tensoner bolt………………………………...................22……………16
Timing cover bolts………………………………………........................16………...….12
Transmission casing to engine…………………………...................8………….…6
Water pump pulley bolts…………………………………....................10………..…..7
*Use a new bolt


hope this helps

Ryan

Edited by minimad998, 17 November 2006 - 04:04 PM.


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Posted 17 November 2006 - 04:25 PM

That's the pulley. Not the bolts that attatch it to the block..... which are 17lb

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Posted 18 February 2007 - 07:52 PM

Good job i found this in a search.
Im changing my water pump on my MG METRO TURBO ENGINE.
I didnt know u had to tighten them like that. ive not got a Torque Wrench. how does it work, do u set it to a setting, then as your tightening the nuts, does the tool sort stop tightening. thanks....

Which one should i buy.
Thanks..

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Edited by Mark1275GT, 18 February 2007 - 08:23 PM.


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Posted 18 February 2007 - 11:31 PM

Anyone :(

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 12:17 AM

A torque wrench is a spring item, as you wind to the correct setting (writen on the body of the tool) a sping hold a sort of clutch. When the twisting force overcomes the spring (IE when the nut is torqued up) the wrench will click or go. Digital ones vibrate or bleep.

that tool zone one is similar to my own one...........which I fuggin hate. I can't set the thing as it's weird. I winds in 12's so it messes with my mind.

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 01:09 PM

A torque wrench is a spring item, as you wind to the correct setting (writen on the body of the tool) a sping hold a sort of clutch. When the twisting force overcomes the spring (IE when the nut is torqued up) the wrench will click or go. Digital ones vibrate or bleep.

that tool zone one is similar to my own one...........which I fuggin hate. I can't set the thing as it's weird. I winds in 12's so it messes with my mind.


So what would be the best one to get as an all rounder. as i guess i better tighten the nuts on my water pump proper.
Could someone give us a link on the best one.. thanks alot :(

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Posted 19 February 2007 - 03:37 PM

Heard a few people who had no complaints about the halfords own brand jobbie. Think their like £20 odd and good enought for the job.




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