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[DeadSquare]

How long before all cars will have to have them ?

 

Unsold new cars, in showrooms, will have to be retro fitted after July.

 

 

[KTS]

 

Unsold new cars, in showrooms, will have to be retro fitted after July.

 

..says who ?

[68+86auto]

I don't really see this as an issue. It also doesn't seem like something that would have any reason to be forced onto older vehicles. Has anything ever been required to be added to an older vehicle? I can't think of anything except for here very old vehicles require certain lights when in use.

Edited by 68+86auto, 11 May 2024 - 10:13 AM.

[Quinlan minor]

Back to the Past?

Sounds a lot like the 85 MPH maximum speedometers mandated, in the States, back in the '70s in its pointlessness.

The 'Back to the Future' Delorean was fitted with one. Kinda defeated the 88 MPH required, so the studio had to put a sticker over it for the movie. Can be seen peeling back in the museum, now.

Edited by Quinlan minor, 11 May 2024 - 10:31 AM.

[stuart bowes]

anywhere around 85-90 or so would be fine by me, anything more than that is taking the p1ss anyway and we all know it .. doesn't stop us doing it from time to time but it's not OK really is it, obviously

 

probably wouldn't affect the mini much anyway would it

[DeadSquare]

I don't really see this as an issue. It also doesn't seem like something that would have any reason to be forced onto older vehicles. Has anything ever been required to be added to an older vehicle? I can't think of anything except for here very old vehicles require certain lights when in use.

Windscreen washers.

[Spider]

How long before remote disablers are fitted ?

 

I believe most cars now have wifi so the makers can fiddle with the cars software and no doubt track where you go as well as your usage.

[PoolGuy]

Is this what this forum has become? Clickbait threads with no context? It’s very sad if that’s the case.

[MiniFanGraham]

I think it is not true that this is Mandatory for UK.

Intelligent Speed Assistance (ISA) technology will become a standard feature in new vehicles sold within the European Union and Northern Ireland starting July 6, aimed at enhancing road safety by reducing accidents caused by speeding.

While the UK has decided against mandating this technology for its vehicles, the majority of new cars on British roads will still be equipped with ISA, offering drivers the option to deactivate it daily

ISA systems function by alerting the driver with a beep or a steering wheel vibration when they exceed speed limits. Should the driver fail to respond, the system will intervene by gently pulling back on the accelerator to maintain compliance with speed regulations.

Car manufacturers, including Ford and Volvo, have been incorporating ISA as an optional feature since 2015. It has been a compulsory inclusion in all new cars sold across Europe since 2022, albeit with the ability to switch it off.

According to the European Transport Safety Council, most drivers quickly adapt to ISA, viewing it as a beneficial change that not only promotes safety but also helps avoid speeding fines.

I cannot see this affecting classic cars as they dont have GPS or traffic sign recongnition cameras and computers controlling engine speed.

Edited by MiniFanGraham, 12 May 2024 - 07:47 PM.

[Bobbins]

And still no government seems concerned about crap drivers which quite honestly defies belief.

[mattbeddow]

There is no way this technology is actually mature enough to start controlling cars speed.
I have a polestar with it and have to leave it turned off as it frequently detects the signs on adjacent roads or on turnings which aren't applicable to me, or just seems to completely guess at a random speed.

[bpirie1000]

Not sure it is a good idea. What happens if on a country road and an emergency services vehicle comes up behind you. I have had to accelerate to find a suitable place for them to overtake. If I hold them up as I am flat in my limiter they will loose precious seconds....

Also most people will admit to speeding up to overtake, then go back to limit.

If it ain't broke.. don't try to fix it or tax it....

[68+86auto]

 

I don't really see this as an issue. It also doesn't seem like something that would have any reason to be forced onto older vehicles. Has anything ever been required to be added to an older vehicle? I can't think of anything except for here very old vehicles require certain lights when in use.

Windscreen washers.

 

Explain to me what the requirement is? I haven't heard anything about that in any country. That seems like the most pointless thing to require.

[DeadSquare]

 

 

I don't really see this as an issue. It also doesn't seem like something that would have any reason to be forced onto older vehicles. Has anything ever been required to be added to an older vehicle? I can't think of anything except for here very old vehicles require certain lights when in use.

Windscreen washers.

 

Explain to me what the requirement is? I haven't heard anything about that in any country. That seems like the most pointless thing to require.

 

When ever I see your posts, I wonder whether your signature is 'Richard Scale'  or 'Harty Tack'.

 

In the 1970s, Windscreen washers became mandatory for all cars.  It meant drilling holes in the body to fit the jets, something that the Swansea DVLA would not allow now as they'd deem that it would materially alter the structure of the monocoque.

 

But back to speed limiters.  They seem to have been about for a while and can apparently, presently be overridden.  Thinking about it, there won't be much point in them being fitted to older cars, as a car travelling faster that the restricted ones will stand out.

[68+86auto]

I don't really see this as an issue. It also doesn't seem like something that would have any reason to be forced onto older vehicles. Has anything ever been required to be added to an older vehicle? I can't think of anything except for here very old vehicles require certain lights when in use.

Windscreen washers.

Explain to me what the requirement is? I haven't heard anything about that in any country. That seems like the most pointless thing to require.

When ever I see your posts, I wonder whether your signature is 'Richard Scale'  or 'Harty Tack'.
 
In the 1970s, Windscreen washers became mandatory for all cars.  It meant drilling holes in the body to fit the jets, something that the Swansea DVLA would not allow now as they'd deem that it would materially alter the structure of the monocoque.
 
But back to speed limiters.  They seem to have been about for a while and can apparently, presently be overridden.  Thinking about it, there won't be much point in them being fitted to older cars, as a car travelling faster that the restricted ones will stand out.

Interesting. There is no such requirement over here.

My signature is simply an ignition secondary waveform.