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8.6:1 Compression Ratio 1132Cc Too Low?


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#16 babsbrown

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Posted 30 November 2024 - 06:28 PM

Our old A-Series engines do thrive on higher compression ratios. I would suggest that you skim the head to achieve around 9.8:1 and if using an Evo001 cam you go for an Aldon Yellow distributor. (That cam is great for mid-range torque and I am just fitting one to a 1293 cc MG Midget).
Before skimming the 295 head, check the depth of the oil way hole and ensure that you have a minimum of 0.050" (fifty thou) remaining depth after skimming. With the larger capacity it's unlikely you will need to skim anywhere near to the minimum in order to get the CR you need. Slightly bigger inlet valves would be good, but not essential.
Yes, check the rocker angles after skimming, but I think that you will not need to shim the rocker pillars, but make sure the rocker pads onto the valves are OK.
Measure and calculate accurately and all will be fine. Come back on here if you need any further advice.
Some say that you can't rev a 1098 engine, but they are fine up to around 6,000 rpm. I once had an MG 1100 engine with the old 731 cam in a rally mini and I regularly used over 6000 rpm. It never blew up :D .

Ah thanks cooperman,

I've just checked my oil feed depth and it's 2.60" into the head. My head height is 2.73" suggesting a 20thou skim already. I'm not sure if I've measured that right because that would effectively give me 0.13" from the end of the feed to the cylinder surface. Implying I could shave a right chunk off? 80thou


Theoretically, as 20thou has reduced the cc to 26cc then that would roughly suggest that another 60thou skim would achieve a reduction in 4.5cc. Giving me 21.5cc. With all measurements taken into consideration that would get it to 9.6:1

Obviously this is a rough estimation. Which I'm not keen on, so I'll get the graph paper out first and work out the surface area to cc before I get anything done.

Cheers Babs

Edited by babsbrown, 30 November 2024 - 06:41 PM.


#17 babsbrown

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Posted 30 November 2024 - 06:30 PM

I can tell you a way to pocket the block to run a 12g940 head, but would take absolutely no responsibility if injury happened, but I've done it successfully before.

Shooter


How did you do it mate? Tbf my other 998 engine is pocketed. I did it with a cordless drill and a grinding stone. Can't be any worse than that idea.

Still undecided as to what to do really. Too many options Really. I shouldn't have bought so many heads haha

I used a W225 grinding point in a plunge router, which I converted to use a threaded rod with lock nuts for depth of cut. It's a bit animal but works well, it's main use is to equalise chamber depths if I'm modifying cylinder heads. It took a bit of time but done the job OK. Obviously if you are doing this in situ, tape off all the holes in the block, grease and pack the cylinders. The shoe or what ever its called on the router keeps everything nice and square just leaving you to steer it.

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Ah nice work shooter, wish I'd have known about this before I pocketed my 998 last month haha.

#18 timmy850

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Posted 30 November 2024 - 07:18 PM

The mini 1100 engine fitted to Australian minis was 8.5:1 and made a quoted 50hp at 5100RPM and 60lbft at 2500RPM. It also had a pretty mild cam and single HS2 carb, but was much nicer for a general road engine compared to the previous 998 

 

The previous model 998 was 8.3:1 and made a quoted 40hp at 5250RPM and 52lbft at 2750RPM.

 

If you are going for a lower compression engine you will normally need a pretty mild cam to keep the dynamic compression ratio up enough.



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Posted 30 November 2024 - 10:03 PM

The mini 1100 engine fitted to Australian minis was 8.5:1 and made a quoted 50hp at 5100RPM and 60lbft at 2500RPM. It also had a pretty mild cam and single HS2 carb, but was much nicer for a general road engine compared to the previous 998

The previous model 998 was 8.3:1 and made a quoted 40hp at 5250RPM and 52lbft at 2750RPM.

If you are going for a lower compression engine you will normally need a pretty mild cam to keep the dynamic compression ratio up enough.


Excellent that's good to know.
I've worked out that an 80thou skim should give me 9.2:1

Do you have a recommendation for a mild cam? I wasn't looking at anything too hot.
The evo001, MG Metro or Kent 266.

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Posted 01 December 2024 - 09:54 AM

Just stick a Swiftune SW5 camshaft in it, it works, no guessing, no opinions, job done.

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Posted 02 December 2024 - 05:39 PM

Just stick a Swiftune SW5 camshaft in it, it works, no guessing, no opinions, job done.

Shooter


Thanks mate




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