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[JJanota]

Hi all,

 

after introducing myself, I would like to ask for some help with camshaft timing on the engine I’m rebuilding (1293cc, minispares MS Evo 002 Camshaft).

 

The new sprocket I have seems different from the old one ( as shown in the comparison photos ) . It has a longer face / different hub geometry. When I fit the new sprocket, the camshaft end float becomes excessive, but with the old sprocket it is within spec.

 

Would it be acceptable to add a steel washer as a spacer on the outside face of the hub, (as shown in the “adding a washer here” picture), to bring the end float back within specification?

 

This is the only solution I can see at the moment.

 

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After this is solved, I need to figure out the camshaft timing. This is somehow a mistery to me and my dad, as this is the first time ever that we are going to work on a non-stock engine / performance cam. 

-Is there a nice procedure here in the forum you guys could point me to ?
-Does someone have a real-size picture of a degree wheel I could print and use for our timing ? 
-Has someone installed this particular cam with a non-adjustable timing kit ? What is the woodruff offset key you guys have used ? 

many thanks 
cheers, 

 

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[Cooperman]

With a performance cam it is necessary to time it in accurately rather than just set it up dot-to-dot on the chain sprockets.

The procedure is already on here, if you do a search, but you need a crankshaft protractor and a DTI. 

The basic timing can be way out due to tolerance build-ups and as much as a 10 degree error has been found.

For accurate setting you can use either a vernier adjustable kit of an offset woodruff key of the correct amount.

[floormanager]

Lots of videos on camshaft timing on youtube.  HRE used to post a lot but not so much now.

 

 

Also shows how to check the camshaft endfloat.  To adjust needs a lathe.

 

https://youtu.be/Q2W...0gDJc_wRt_i9sIh

Edited by floormanager, 08 July 2026 - 06:13 PM.

[Spider]

If the Cam has been ground correctly, it will only thrust one way - in to the Thrust Plate. Based on that, as ling as you have 0.003" or more then it will be fine.

[Cooperman]

Whilst using offset woodruff keys will (eventually) get the cam timing almost spot on, they can be a bit of a 'fiddle' and individually they are not cheap, can be a bit awkward to fit and you may have to try more than one to get it right.

The best option is the latest adjustable set from Mini Spares. I used one for the first time a couple of weeks ago and it was so easy to set to within one or two degrees.

It's well worth the money and is very well made, C-AJJ3327 is the part number.

[floormanager]

Worth knowing.  I had one with multiple keyways on the crank pulley and I struggled to get my head around how to time it.

 

https://www.theminif...yed-crank-gear/