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#61 Jammy

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 04:54 PM

Don't be too put off by us Joff, we TMFers tend to be quite jovial on the forum, maybe sometimes too much. Personally I'm glad to have someone with as much experience and knowledge as yourself on TMF! :D

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 05:10 PM

Don't be too put off by us Joff, we TMFers tend to be quite jovial on the forum, maybe sometimes too much. Personally I'm glad to have someone with as much experience and knowledge as yourself on TMF! :D


Yeah, what he said. :bah:

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 06:00 PM

don't quote me on this, but the red car at the end (far right ) looks like the roof chopped pick up of a member of west country mini's....... not 100% sure...... i'm off for a look..........

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 06:11 PM

Nah, I'm pretty sure that's a saloon sprint aint it?

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 07:26 PM

any chance of a rolecage for a sprint?? or custom jobbie , hard to get homologated tho!

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 09:58 PM

is the sprint and minus the same height inside for the rear cage???? al had one from his minus so i think it is possible... but the front would be a custom jobbie i guess.....

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 11:28 PM

i thort roof was chopped all around...meaning custom rear cage aswell? i thort minus was standard just in FG :S oh people keep confusing me

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Posted 16 January 2007 - 12:00 AM

Minus and sprints are both cut down minis, but the height is taken from different places. I can't be arsed explaining it tonight, either wait for someone with more time or have a quick search.

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Posted 16 January 2007 - 12:06 AM

ah yer sorry i forgot minus's were chopped else where :S surely the people who have z cars kits would need different cage's to the normal steel shell ones

and wait for someone with both or anyone who knows that they are on about to come along and explane:)

Edited by mini93, 16 January 2007 - 12:06 AM.


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Posted 16 January 2007 - 04:14 PM

minus' are cut along the body and retain the standard glass. sprint are cut down in the body and the pillars so different glass is needed.

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Posted 17 January 2007 - 05:51 PM

don't quote me on this, but the red car at the end (far right ) looks like the roof chopped pick up of a member of west country mini's....... not 100% sure...... i'm off for a look..........

The Mini Sprint in red is in-fact the original Neville Trickett MiniSprint Racer, without its
race engine (which we have), and 5-speed Colotti-Francis Box,
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and without Nev's original steering-wheel [which we also have]
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and converted for road-use ... SEE HERE

You know what it says on every engineering drawing "[i]If in-doubt, don't scale or guess, ASK ![/i]!"

Want to know where the car is now? SEE THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE LINK

Edited by jofppjracing, 18 January 2007 - 09:25 AM.


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Posted 17 January 2007 - 05:55 PM

Did you get a reply from Neville Mini Mad Me?

When you do, can you post it up as would be interesting to know.

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Posted 17 January 2007 - 06:16 PM

I did yes, I will post it up tomorrow (or at least some of it). He seems like a very reasonable and genuine guy too. I'd better email him back before I post it actually, asking him if it's OK to make that information public. Wouldn't want to offend a legend!

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Posted 17 January 2007 - 07:05 PM

stewart and arden bought the rights for the sprint but nevile trickett reckons they only made a couple and then shut down making them. he believes they only bought it to stop making them. (from miniworld this month not word for word though)


Very interersting read!

Now if Stuart and Arden bought the rights how can Nevile start making them again?

Will British Heritage not be annoyed?

Directed to Jofppjracing (as he seems to know his stuff :gimme:)

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Posted 18 January 2007 - 01:37 AM

I had a serious look into doing Composite Minis, and having asked BMW, Heritage and had a "chat" with someone from Hawk cars what i found out was this:

BMW DONT OWN Mini, they do however own MINI.

Heritage OWN Mini, they will come at you with lawyers and big stick if you make a Mini in Composite (see bit about Hawk now)

Hawk made Composite Minis, Pickups and "Sprint" shells. Due to Heritage owning the rights to Mini and the Mini Shape they said stop making em unless you give us over £2,000 per car (i have yet to find out how much they want, since no-one wants to tell me for obvious reasons) and as such they wouldnt be able to sell any cars at the price they needed to sell at to make it profitable.

However, if you take a steel shell and chop it up, its NOT a NEW Mini and theirfore does not affect the Heritage Rights (which covers NEW Shells).

If you are making or supplying Mini shells in Composites without Heritage Permission then you are breaking the law.

Heritage will find you, you will get a letter, you will go to court.




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