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#1 ludsonline

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 03:55 PM

Hi,
I have a 1993 1275 Italian Job and was wondering brake system it has fitted as standard as i wanted to bleed the brakes and was wondering what sequence it has to be done in.

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 04:30 PM

Start with the corner furthest from the master cylinder then work forwards.

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 04:37 PM

As picture Fig 9.4 in the haynes manual

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 05:04 PM

a minislapper says just go from the corner furthest from the master cylinder. then work in from there. So back passenger side wheel, then dirver side. Then front passenger side, final the dirver side wheel.

Don't forget to adjust too.

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 05:11 PM

Adjust the rear drums first then bleed?

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 05:17 PM

Why do you think you need to bleed them? Have you changed any parts? If not, they probably just need adjusting. If you really do need to bleed then, yes, adjust first then bleed in the sequence above.

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 05:17 PM

if my memory serves me right, the sequence mentioned above is wrong for systems with a servo, which i'm sure 90's minis have.......

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 05:17 PM

Aye, give them an adjusting if your having break problems.

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 05:17 PM

if my memory serves me right, the sequence mentioned above is wrong for systems with a servo, which i'm sure 90's minis have.......


First I've ever heard of that.

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 05:48 PM

Why do you think you need to bleed them? Have you changed any parts? If not, they probably just need adjusting. If you really do need to bleed then, yes, adjust first then bleed in the sequence above.


I have bought the car recently and the brakes - pedal seems firm but the car does not stop quickly. I will have a look at them tomorrow and adjust as necessary.

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 06:10 PM

If you've got a firm pedal, it's not likely to be air in the system. Check the discs and pads and make sure the rear drums are adjusted properly.

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 06:32 PM

If you've got a firm pedal, it's not likely to be air in the system. Check the discs and pads and make sure the rear drums are adjusted properly.


ok will do. Is it right to adjust the rears so they are just rubbing???

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 06:35 PM

ok will do. Is it right to adjust the rears so they are just rubbing???


and then take it back 1/4 to 1/2 a turn on the nut

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Posted 04 February 2007 - 11:46 AM

just had a re-read of the haynes manual, and if you car has a servo, then the manual refers to it as a type 4 tandem master cylinder, and as such has a different bleed sequence to the other, earlier master cylinders. for right hand drive models, i read it as, Front passenger, Front driver, Rear passenger, Rear driver. When bleeding, ".....the brake pedal should be depressed rapidly,held down for three seconds,and then released slowly. A delay of fifteen seconds should be allowed before repaeting." See page 9.4 Haynes book of lies 1969-2001.

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Posted 04 February 2007 - 12:41 PM

just had a re-read of the Haynes manual, and if you car has a servo, then the manual refers to it as a type 4 tandem master cylinder, and as such has a different bleed sequence to the other, earlier master cylinders. for right hand drive models, i read it as, Front passenger, Front driver, Rear passenger, Rear driver. When bleeding, ".....the brake pedal should be depressed rapidly,held down for three seconds,and then released slowly. A delay of fifteen seconds should be allowed before repeating." See page 9.4 Haynes book of lies 1969-2001.


Yes mine has a servo so will adjust the rears and if no good bleed as above.

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