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#1 Tomm

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 10:58 PM

Hi

i am wanting to pint my honda civic but i dont know much about painting, I have had a look through cooper chaz's guide but a lot of it goes over my head! but anyway...

I am wanting to paint my car jet black using 2k paint, i have rear that i should use the mix of 2:1 with 2K hardener + 10% 2K thinners. is this a suitable mixture?

Are 2K hardners also regarded as 2k activators?

When i use 2k primer and laquer do i also have to use the same mixture of 2:1 with 2K hardener + 10% 2K thinners or is primer diffrent?

I am hoping to paint my honda civic how many litres of each should i need if i used a 2:1 with 2K hardener + 10% 2K thinners ratio?

Thanks a lot for your help! Could some one please point me int he right dirrection or am i completely off track with the whole painting malarkey?

Thanks a lot, Tomm

EDIT:

Or would i be better off using cellulose paints?

I read that if i was to use cellulose paint i would have to mix it at a 1:1 ratio with cellulose thiners therfore giving me 10 litres of paint which i assume will leave a few litres for repainting?

I also read that cellulose paint do not require a laqure as they have a glossy finish. does this mean that painting with cellulose paints requires more exsperiance?

Cellulose paints also dont require hardners or activators so does this there fore make them easier or harder to use?

As a first painter what would be better for me to use? I feel that cellulose would be cheaper and come out with a overall better finish but i think that painting with cellulose will require some level o0f exsperiance?

Can any one again shead any light on this area for me?

Edited by tomm, 10 August 2007 - 12:41 AM.


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Posted 10 August 2007 - 01:28 AM

right done some reaserch

Although 2K is now illegal to use for private use i still find it widley avalible? But anyway

I have read tha 2K will give a longer lasting finish over cellulose paints and cellulose will need a good 2 pollishes a year to maintain its brightness. At the moment i am in the mind to use cellulose paint as i read its less toxic and i dont want to get in any trouble for using it illegaly ect! I also seem to find a wider range of cellulose colours apposed to 2k.

I have writen out a list of how much and at what ratios the paint will be mixed. If i have done this wrong can some one please correct me!

2K Primer

4 Litres of 2K primer (£32) mixed with 2K hardner (£32 for 5 litres) at a ratio of 4 parts primer to 1 part thiner (4:1) + 15% tinners

Colour

5 Litres of 2K Jet black (£35) mixed with a ratio of 2 parts of colour to 1 part of hardner (2:1) + 10% 2K thinners

Laqure

5 litres of 2K clear coat mixxed with 2 parts clear coat to 1 part hardner(£35)-(2:1) + 25% thiners

Do i have the right idea there with the ratios of which the paint has to be mixed?

I will look into the cellulose options tommorow but at the moment i am shagged and am off to bed!

Tomm

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 08:55 PM

I think celly is illegal for home use as well from January 1st this year correct me if i'm wrong sombody

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 09:05 PM

i would go with 2k,you can any colour you like,
patenice good prep are def required experience you only get by doing it.
mixtures look ok to me though i do my primer 3-1 and 10%,and wear a mask

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Posted 11 August 2007 - 04:11 PM

Yes after speaking to a few bloked along my road who paint thier cars they have told me that 85% of the finish is in the prep of the car, i think i will go 2K as it looks easier to work with.

Where can i get my paint from, i know they can get you it in halfrauds if you give them the colour code but would i have to specificly ask for 2 pack paint? I have found a rather good dealer on the internet and i will probably end up getting it all from him.

I have just got a workshop put up for me to work in and i will be doing bumpers wings doors ect in there but i have read that i will need to have the temperature at around 35 or 40 degrees. Is this really needed? I thought as lonng as the area you are painting in is dust free you are ok?

Is that paint in your Avatar your own work twinks?




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