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Well....I have gone and done it!. I am the pound owner of a burnt orange Mini Classic on a P plate. I could not believe my eyes when I found this car on a sales forcourt with 15000 miles on the clock and sevice stamps ever few thansand miles by the main dealer. I looked round the car for ages put could not find even one rust bubble, paint chip or imperfection. I had looked at coppers a few years younger with more bobywork mess on then. Plus I prfer the basic layout on this model. As far as I could tell, and I spent hours (really) there had been no paint shop involvement and the previous owner.
Can anyone Help? I need a web site that lists all mini details and ugrades from 1995-1998 just so I know my model should be in there. I want to no iff it is a MK7 or not because (and I may be arong) after 96 were mk7 and that the 2 cars were symilar appart from bonnet stripes and spots.
I pick it up next week but would love to know more about it.
I can go to a few shows this year which is good one, I live in South yorks
Neon
Chronalogical mini specs.
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Neon trifle
, Feb 12 2005 10:09 PM
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Posted 12 February 2005 - 10:22 PM
Congratulations, may you enjoy many happy years together!
What exactly do you want to know about the spec of your car?
What exactly do you want to know about the spec of your car?
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Posted 12 February 2005 - 10:46 PM
Hi
You asked what I wanted to know........
Well the mini is a 1997 but cannot work out, without seeing it again, if it is a mk6 or mk7. Am I right in saying the engines used in the classic mini (I think the mayfair and sprite was dicontinued at the point) is the same as the cooper? is it set up the same? I was too busy on the test drive smiling, having fun to noticed and remember things like air bags and double point injection ect...
Neon
You asked what I wanted to know........
Well the mini is a 1997 but cannot work out, without seeing it again, if it is a mk6 or mk7. Am I right in saying the engines used in the classic mini (I think the mayfair and sprite was dicontinued at the point) is the same as the cooper? is it set up the same? I was too busy on the test drive smiling, having fun to noticed and remember things like air bags and double point injection ect...
Neon
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Posted 12 February 2005 - 11:40 PM
Well, Mk7 is a slightly spurious definition. It's a Mk5 body, but there were two or three different specs for the Mk4 even though the body didn't change so some people do call the Twinpoint a Mk7.
Basically, P reg is when the twinpoint (aka Mk7) came in so that is what it should be but I suppose it could have been an older car that hung around on the lot for a while before being registered.
It is a Mk7 if it has an airbag, that's the easiest way to tell when you get in the car (the wheel says "SRS AIRBAG" in the centre). Mk7 also has a two-speed heater fan as opposed to the previous single speed unit and load leveling headlamps controlled by a rotary switch behind the steering wheel by the air vent. The horn buttons are on the steering wheel (two of them) and the main lighting switch is on the lighting stalk. There's a warning light for the SRS system on the dash. The fusebox is inside the car by the drivers knee (in RHD cars). There's a funky alloy throttle pedal. Pre-tensioning seatbelts are fitted as are side impact bars. The rear side bins have a moulded plastic liner fitted. Twin rear fog lamps are fitted as standard for the first time.
And as you said, the twin point engine. The easiest way to identify the engine is that the radiator is in front of it not beside it. this means that the alternator is mounted high up on the engine. There is no distributor and instead the ignition leads feed into a square coil pack on a bracket on the front of the engine. The oil filter is now screwed horizontally into the front of the block, roughly where the distributor used to be.
There must be something amongst that that you remember seeing!
Yes, both cars (Mini and Mini Cooper) had the same 63Bhp engine unit and 4 speed manual transmission. Top speed 90mph, 0-60 in 12.2s, 43 mpg (officially, more likely to see mid 30's). Same suspension, same brakes, same steering. Mini had 'Premium' alloy wheels while Mini Cooper had 'Sports' alloy wheels, both had the same tyres. Mini had 'Balmoral' trim with colour matched carpets and Mini Cooper had 'Monaco' trim with black carpets. Mini had colour matched mirrors and Mini Cooper had white mirrors, the grilles were different and the stripes and coachlines.
But since pretty much the same option packs were available on both cars they could both have come down the production line looking the same as each other and essentially being exactly the same car in all but name.
And yes, I do have the original brochure here. I'm not so sad I know all this stuff off the top of my head (just sad enough to have the brochure and type all this in).
Basically, P reg is when the twinpoint (aka Mk7) came in so that is what it should be but I suppose it could have been an older car that hung around on the lot for a while before being registered.
It is a Mk7 if it has an airbag, that's the easiest way to tell when you get in the car (the wheel says "SRS AIRBAG" in the centre). Mk7 also has a two-speed heater fan as opposed to the previous single speed unit and load leveling headlamps controlled by a rotary switch behind the steering wheel by the air vent. The horn buttons are on the steering wheel (two of them) and the main lighting switch is on the lighting stalk. There's a warning light for the SRS system on the dash. The fusebox is inside the car by the drivers knee (in RHD cars). There's a funky alloy throttle pedal. Pre-tensioning seatbelts are fitted as are side impact bars. The rear side bins have a moulded plastic liner fitted. Twin rear fog lamps are fitted as standard for the first time.
And as you said, the twin point engine. The easiest way to identify the engine is that the radiator is in front of it not beside it. this means that the alternator is mounted high up on the engine. There is no distributor and instead the ignition leads feed into a square coil pack on a bracket on the front of the engine. The oil filter is now screwed horizontally into the front of the block, roughly where the distributor used to be.
There must be something amongst that that you remember seeing!
Yes, both cars (Mini and Mini Cooper) had the same 63Bhp engine unit and 4 speed manual transmission. Top speed 90mph, 0-60 in 12.2s, 43 mpg (officially, more likely to see mid 30's). Same suspension, same brakes, same steering. Mini had 'Premium' alloy wheels while Mini Cooper had 'Sports' alloy wheels, both had the same tyres. Mini had 'Balmoral' trim with colour matched carpets and Mini Cooper had 'Monaco' trim with black carpets. Mini had colour matched mirrors and Mini Cooper had white mirrors, the grilles were different and the stripes and coachlines.
But since pretty much the same option packs were available on both cars they could both have come down the production line looking the same as each other and essentially being exactly the same car in all but name.
And yes, I do have the original brochure here. I'm not so sad I know all this stuff off the top of my head (just sad enough to have the brochure and type all this in).
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Posted 12 February 2005 - 11:42 PM
Just adding extra info, maybe be usefull, may not.
The Mk7 was the Final generation of the Mini. The most desirable to some, the least to others.
The mark 7 Mini is introduced in 1996. Changes include twin-point injection, higher final drive, driver airbag, side impact beams, better sound insulation, improved front seats, a front-mounted radiator and a sportspack option. Cooper 35 LE introduced (200). Equinox LE introduced.
In 1997, The Mini Classic is introduced as the new non-Cooper model. The Mayfair is dropped. Sportpack-equipped models with fat 13 inch wheels become another revival for the Mini, proving very popular.
In 1998, Paul Smith LE is introduced (1,800). Cooper Sports LE is introduced (100). The model carries 1960s British Vita team colours.
In 1999, 40, Cooper S Works Touring/5 Sport and John Cooper LEs are introduced. Mini's 40th birthday party at Silverstone is huge once again.
In 2000, BMW sells Rover to the Phoenix consortium, but retains the rights to the Mini name and future. Cooper Sport 500 LE introduced (500). Mini production ends when the final Cooper Sport 500 LE rolls off the Longbridge production line ( No. 5,387,862). John Cooper dies Christmas Eve.
The Mk7 was the Final generation of the Mini. The most desirable to some, the least to others.
The mark 7 Mini is introduced in 1996. Changes include twin-point injection, higher final drive, driver airbag, side impact beams, better sound insulation, improved front seats, a front-mounted radiator and a sportspack option. Cooper 35 LE introduced (200). Equinox LE introduced.
In 1997, The Mini Classic is introduced as the new non-Cooper model. The Mayfair is dropped. Sportpack-equipped models with fat 13 inch wheels become another revival for the Mini, proving very popular.
In 1998, Paul Smith LE is introduced (1,800). Cooper Sports LE is introduced (100). The model carries 1960s British Vita team colours.
In 1999, 40, Cooper S Works Touring/5 Sport and John Cooper LEs are introduced. Mini's 40th birthday party at Silverstone is huge once again.
In 2000, BMW sells Rover to the Phoenix consortium, but retains the rights to the Mini name and future. Cooper Sport 500 LE introduced (500). Mini production ends when the final Cooper Sport 500 LE rolls off the Longbridge production line ( No. 5,387,862). John Cooper dies Christmas Eve.
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Posted 12 February 2005 - 11:50 PM
But....
Mini was never called Mini Classic until after production ended, the base model was called Mini and replaced City rather than Mayfair which was the higher spec version at the time.
Some of those packs from John Cooper Garages were available from shortly after the twinpoint became available in 1996, with the S Works following in 1998.
Mini was never called Mini Classic until after production ended, the base model was called Mini and replaced City rather than Mayfair which was the higher spec version at the time.
Some of those packs from John Cooper Garages were available from shortly after the twinpoint became available in 1996, with the S Works following in 1998.
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Posted 12 February 2005 - 11:53 PM
Hey dont blame me, i'm just repeating what i read on another site. 
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 04:01 PM
Apparently, orange is the best colour to get as they do not rust as much. It has something to do with the pigment the orange is made up of. This came from a spraypainter. (it could also be a load of *man danglies*????)
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 06:00 PM
See what happens, BMW buy the mini and then John Cooper dies!
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Posted 13 February 2005 - 09:14 PM
he was a true inspiration, unfortunetly he fell ill in the late 90's, A couple of months a go in Miniworld ther was a bloke who bought a MK 3 850 after fitting a stairlift for one Mr Cooper!
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